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Author Topic: How many of you started your own tradition?  (Read 18804 times)
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« Reply #15: October 29, 2007, 05:53:53 pm »

I was grown up catholic, spent 4 years behind the walls of a cloister and personally believe, that this religion used tyranny, fear and persecution to their own benefit.

No, the people who taught you used tyranny, fear, and persecution to their own benefit.  Most Catholics would find this behavior abominable, as do I.  The Catholic clergy I've known in my life are some of the kindest, most decent people I've ever met.  So no, there's nothing wrong with the religion.  Sounds like you had some bad experiences, and I'm sorry, but that doesn't make the religion the problem.

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Tradition, to my understanding, needs a person that is the "founder / leader / guru" with pretention of impeccability (= for example the Pope in Rome).

Nope.  And I'm not sure where you're getting this idea.  Most pagan religions have nothing to do with Catholicism anyway (even if I agreed with the way you categorize Catholics), so there can't be any meaningful comparison.

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A better description seems to me "path". Tradition, in my ears, has to do with rules and structure. Honestly, I never met a "tradition" where all rules and structures fit for me. The rules and structures are menmade and - maybe - do not help someone to improve spirituality.

I think you're projecting your beliefs (as well as past traumas) onto other people, and that's always a bad idea.

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..... and sorry if I hurt someone's feeling.

I don't think there are any hurt feelings.  I only brought up these issues for the sake of clarity.  Nothing personal, I promise.  Wink

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That "tradition"-thing just makes me feel falling back to the darkness. Huh


I'm sorry to hear that.  For other people, specific religious traditions can feel like coming home.

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« Reply #16: October 30, 2007, 03:05:53 am »

just for s&g I thought I'd take a poll of all us newbies and full members at TC. I am one who started my own trad over 25 yrs ago and it is a rather eclectic one using fam trad stuff and elements from Wicca, Native American and Celtic/Druid
How about you?
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I tried to start my own path, but the gods had other ideas; they dragged me kicking and screaming into Kemeticism.  Grin I'm still pretty eclectic, though.
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« Reply #17: October 30, 2007, 04:15:41 pm »

It's an issue of specalised terminology.

Incidentally, in our group, we have many different beliefs about some things - the person I'm closest to, as a friend, and I have *seriously* different takes on the nature of deity. It doesn't matter in ritual, because we have shared agreements about how we approach certain things. We both get things out of the experiences.

Janett, I read and reread your and others reply to understand them right. I agree on the issue of specialised terminology and I agree that I mixed up bad experiences with tradition.

It took me quite a long time to answer in this thread. I felt there are many different point of views and it's too hard for me to sort them out and make myself understand in a proper way. There are a lot of personal wounds leading my fingers to write - and definitely - the net it not a place to discuss them.

I like the way people described what tradition means to them - especially the one from "I cannot find it anymore" = ....for some people tradition means coming home.

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« Reply #18: October 30, 2007, 04:19:29 pm »

  Grin I'm still pretty eclectic, though.

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« Reply #19: October 30, 2007, 04:24:10 pm »

I guess I would qualify, but it seems weird to me to call something a "tradition" when it lives and will doubtless die with me.  I find it difficult to say "tradition" when applying it to something so utterly solitary.
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« Reply #20: October 31, 2007, 01:55:53 am »

Iää lug ätze - en Ägyptischi Häx.  Wink

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« Reply #21: October 31, 2007, 02:15:36 pm »

I'm still trying to figure out what my ritual costume should look like.  Cheesy

Well, start with pharao-crook-pentacle prints all over and a moustache for Bastet. *grins*

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« Reply #22: November 02, 2007, 10:02:41 pm »

I talk to my gods, alot; and try to do my fair share of listening as well. I don't use rituals or chants or even the typical idea of prayers; I just talk, as if they were standing right beside me.

Glad to hear I'm not the only one that does this.  I often share my thoughts with Asherah.  She doesn't seem to mind, and having an "audience" forces me to arrange my ideas logically.  My tone is informal, but I show respect by keeping a proper attitude as well as regularly reaffirming my love and thankfulness for her.   
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« Reply #23: November 03, 2007, 10:31:11 am »


I have very specific ideas about the value of life and how people's priorities should be in order, and they tend to be much closer to what I've known to be Buddhist ideals. But my devotion to my god keeps me with him instead of off pursuing Buddhism, so I've yet to explore it as another avenue of my faith. Though eventually I may incorporate more of it into my daily life.

Actually, Greek Polytheism had a bit to do with Bhuddism, because Alexander the Great conquered India and married at least one Indian wife.
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« Reply #24: November 03, 2007, 02:57:25 pm »

There are a lot of personal wounds leading my fingers to write - and definitely - the net it not a place to discuss them.

I respectfully disagree.  I have brought my problems up here, and received very valuable help.

Of course, you must be careful not to go beyond your comfort limits, but I suspect you would find many sympathetic ears (eyes?) on this forum.

If you have a hurt you would like addressed, feel free to start a new thread about it.  Sometimes, just talking/typing about a problem helps it go away.

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« Reply #25: November 06, 2007, 07:26:22 am »

I respectfully disagree.  I have brought my problems up here, and received very valuable help.

Of course, you must be careful not to go beyond your comfort limits, but I suspect you would find many sympathetic ears (eyes?) on this forum.

If you have a hurt you would like addressed, feel free to start a new thread about it.  Sometimes, just talking/typing about a problem helps it go away.

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I respect the participants in tC - that's the reason why I participate here. I find posts & threads that help to reflect my personal thoughts, worries.
However, I just don't dare yet to be too much personal in my own posts. I had a very bad experience in another forum, a german one. My boss died - it was a nightmare for me - I spent 2 weeks at her bed - leaving my desk behind - and - of course - I cried. That's when the raven came to me - to help her - both of us. What happened in that forum was another nightmare experience. Nobody expressed sympathy, the whole discussion went around crying at someone's deadbead. Especially one member wrote in a very heartless manner, took my posts on a scolary level like an example for everybody. And she went on and on. I was too much hurt, too deeply wounded to reply on the same level. She was very disrespectful, calling me invectives. From then on, I became more cautios about posting too much personal.

Sometimes, people forgett, hat behind these internet-posts & threads are real people, are lifes, feelings - human beeings.

But, everything I write is based on personal experiences even if I put it into a more general context.

..... and thanks for the "hugs"  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #26: November 06, 2007, 07:31:09 am »

But, everything I write is based on personal experiences even if I put it into a more general context.

I think that is pretty standard for day-to-day.

Sorry you were hurt before.

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« Reply #27: November 06, 2007, 07:31:52 am »

However, I just don't dare yet to be too much personal in my own posts. I had a very bad experience in another forum, a german one. My boss died - it was a nightmare for me - I spent 2 weeks at her bed - leaving my desk behind - and - of course - I cried. That's when the raven came to me - to help her - both of us. What happened in that forum was another nightmare experience. Nobody expressed sympathy, the whole discussion went around crying at someone's deadbead. Especially one member wrote in a very heartless manner, took my posts on a scolary level like an example for everybody. And she went on and on. I was too much hurt, too deeply wounded to reply on the same level. She was very disrespectful, calling me invectives. From then on, I became more cautios about posting too much personal.

Sometimes, people forgett, hat behind these internet-posts & threads are real people, are lifes, feelings - human beeings.

But, everything I write is based on personal experiences even if I put it into a more general context.

..... and thanks for the "hugs"  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #28: November 06, 2007, 07:59:05 am »

My sympathy for your loss, and my horror at people treating your loss so .. cavalierly.  That's just not right.

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« Reply #29: November 20, 2007, 08:34:19 am »

Nobody expressed sympathy, the whole discussion went around crying at someone's deadbead. Especially one member wrote in a very heartless manner, took my posts on a scolary level like an example for everybody. And she went on and on. I was too much hurt, too deeply wounded to reply on the same level. She was very disrespectful, calling me invectives. From then on, I became more cautios about posting too much personal.

Sometimes, people forgett, hat behind these internet-posts & threads are real people, are lifes, feelings - human beeings.

But, everything I write is based on personal experiences even if I put it into a more general context.

..... and thanks for the "hugs"  Roll Eyes

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