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« Reply #15: November 11, 2007, 03:00:32 pm »


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I'm jealous. Most Americans think of Al-Jazeera as an Al-Qaeda tool, but I used to know people (on the Internet) from that part of the world who explained otherwise. They said that Arab kings and dictators hate Al-Jazeera because it exposes their corruption and greed.

Al-Jazeera is (according to some blog posts by Israelis) fairly balanced.  Yes, it lets the Al-Qaeda types spout what they want, but also allows non-Muslim voices similar unedited air time.  The "Arab Street" gets to see both sides present uncensored (by A-J) news and opinion pieces.  Generally that makes the Muslim rulers, fanatics and terrorists look bad; that's a good thing.  The solution to bad speech is usually better speech and more of it.
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« Reply #16: November 11, 2007, 04:15:05 pm »

DishNetwork carries Al-Jazeera English.

Ooh, I have DishNetwork, any way of figuring out what channel it is on? Would love to see it.
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« Reply #17: November 11, 2007, 04:24:09 pm »

Ooh, I have DishNetwork, any way of figuring out what channel it is on? Would love to see it.

http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/whats_on_dish/international/channels/index.asp?NetwID=50433

Channel depends upon your satellite. This is the Arabic version though I think since it's part of the Arabic packages.

I can't find A-J English on Dish.  Did find it on the web http://english.aljazeera.net/English

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« Reply #18: November 11, 2007, 04:33:45 pm »


I think this is rarer then students actually doing it, also give them time and they will blame any number of things other then the actual causes. My step-father believes the school shootings happening here are cause they were "goth". Also, was watching a fox news (had no choice, dinner and it was on...like always) they had a priest talking about the children's mental state...the priest blamed it on them not knowing the love of god.
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« Reply #19: November 11, 2007, 05:27:30 pm »

Al-Jazeera is (according to some blog posts by Israelis) fairly balanced.

US journalists (other than the ideologues, of course) generally see it as onre of the fairer news sources in the Arab world, at least from what I've read.
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« Reply #20: November 11, 2007, 05:48:29 pm »

Also, was watching a fox news (had no choice, dinner and it was on...like always) they had a priest talking about the children's mental state...the priest blamed it on them not knowing the love of god.

We turn the tv off during dinner, otherwise the kids won't eat.  Maybe this can help save you from Fox.  Of course, then you might have to talk politics with your stepdad. . . . . .
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« Reply #21: November 11, 2007, 05:53:47 pm »

then you might have to talk politics with your stepdad. . . . . .

Buahahaha, no no I'm fine with watching fox and not getting bludgeoned talk about politics with him. In fact, I'm pretty sure I could rule at a debate club by now sense I have seen his debate tactic and there is no way to win against it (the secret is to take the craziest position you can, automatically know your right and others are wrong, write off facts that don't support your position, and also take a contradictory position occasionally)
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« Reply #22: November 12, 2007, 11:22:56 am »

(the secret is to take the craziest position you can, automatically know your right and others are wrong, write off facts that don't support your position, and also take a contradictory position occasionally)

I have to ask - is he a politician? Wink
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« Reply #23: November 12, 2007, 11:25:26 am »

I have to ask - is he a politician? Wink

No, but he would probably make a great one. In fact the Right Wing would love him, I mean Rush or Sean Hannity tells him to jump he's jumping.
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« Reply #24: November 12, 2007, 11:41:11 am »

No, but he would probably make a great one. In fact the Right Wing would love him, I mean Rush or Sean Hannity tells him to jump he's jumping.


Sorry, I had to ask tho Wink Reminds me of people I've known in the past.

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« Reply #25: November 12, 2007, 12:02:13 pm »


Ooh, I have DishNetwork, any way of figuring out what channel it is on? Would love to see it.

Last time I saw it (and please bear in mind it's been a long-ass time, because it was on at a very inconvenient time for me), it was either FSTV (9415) or LINK (9410), I can't remember which.

If you ever get a chance and are surfing in that section of channels, there's also a Mormon channel, a channel that carries scientific lectures, and I think 9407 is COLORS TV, which has world music and ET from Bollywood.
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