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« Reply #30: January 07, 2008, 02:35:03 pm »

Ok Im just wondering but if Silver RavenWolf isn't the best way to go then who WOULD be? Im a solitary witch as I cannot find a teacher worth talking to and that I know of there are no mass gatherings in my city.......Which book would you guys reccomend for a beginner solitary witch that I can pick up at Border's or Barnes and Noble?
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« Reply #31: January 07, 2008, 02:40:40 pm »

Ok Im just wondering but if Silver RavenWolf isn't the best way to go then who WOULD be? Im a solitary witch as I cannot find a teacher worth talking to and that I know of there are no mass gatherings in my city.......Which book would you guys reccomend for a beginner solitary witch that I can pick up at Border's or Barnes and Noble?

Raymond Buckland's Complete Book of Witchcraft remains my favorite...absolute favorite I recommend it to everyone.

Scott Cunningham I also think is pretty good, but some people do not like his work at all.
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« Reply #32: January 07, 2008, 02:50:15 pm »

Ok Im just wondering but if Silver RavenWolf isn't the best way to go then who WOULD be? Im a solitary witch as I cannot find a teacher worth talking to and that I know of there are no mass gatherings in my city.......Which book would you guys reccomend for a beginner solitary witch that I can pick up at Border's or Barnes and Noble?

Marion Green's "A Witch Alone" It's not flashy and easy to digest, but it has *fantastic* material that will keep you busy for at least a year.

Deborah Lipp's "Elements of Ritual" - I don't agree with all of her conclusions, and there are a couple of weird things in there, but I really like the overall breakdown of how she looks at different aspects of what ritual is, and how Wiccan ritual works. (Treat it as a "Things to think about" not "The one true way to do things", and you should be fine.)

Dianne Sylvan's "The Circle Within" is a great book about developing a personal devotional and ritual practice that is meaningful for you.

We ask all our seekers to read Amber K's "True Magick" for an overview of different magical and ritual systems, and Robin Wood's "When, Why, ... If" for a Wiccan-based discussion of ethics, both of which I recommend for people interested in either of those topics. 

I quite like Amber K and Azrael Arynn K's "RitualCraft" for more ritual stuff, but it's probably overkill when you're getting started.

I've seen all of these at Borders and Barnes and Noble. If you have specific topics you're interested in, I might have some other suggestions, too, but the above is my top list for "Solitary trying to figure out what to do next."

(Edited to add, since Dania posted while I was typing: I find Scott Cunningham a bit dated these days: there's stuff he doesn't mention that's far more common currency in the community. On the other hand, there's also some nice bits in various places of his. Buckland I'm more hit-or-miss on: I find his Complete Book handy, but I don't know that I'd suggest starting there.)

Also - chances are, there *are* people in your city. However, most reputable teachers (as we've mentioned) won't take students under the age of 18, and many groups want people to wait until they're older - 21, or sometimes 25. Just because there aren't people accessible to you now doesn't mean that you won't have options in a year or two. (Also, groups and teachers also go through cycles.) It's worth checking every 3-6 months and seeing if your options have changed if you're potentially interested in group work.

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« Reply #33: January 07, 2008, 04:18:26 pm »

On the 'some of Starhawk's books using the word' - authors often don't have a lot of say over titles.

You are so right. As an editor at a publishing company, I can say that our authors have zero control over what we name our books. There are a lot of considerations in choosing a title that most authors don't think of, including making sure the important search terms are at the beginning of the title so that they show up in Amazon searches.

I'm guessing that the publisher thought Wicca would be searched on a lot more than Reclaiming. As you infer, that doesn't make Starhawk Wiccan.

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« Reply #34: January 08, 2008, 02:04:57 am »

But she also comes from the Seax-Wicca-derived SerpentStone/Black Forest set of trads. 
This is slightly off-topic, but does anyone know if that refers to the black forest in south-western Germany? (I happen to come from this region.)
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« Reply #35: January 08, 2008, 02:14:10 am »

Part of it is represented as original research she did in the old folks' homes and long term care facilities in her part of Pennsylvania Dutch country.  I agree with her assertion that those old folks were an amazing resource of that purely American sort of magic,
Not sure about the Dutch traditions, but is this also connected to anthroposophy/theosophy? A lot of stuff anthroposophic paesants, healers etc. do here in Germany looks pagan/magic, but they call themselves Christians. Have the Dutch colonies also been influenced by those anthroposophic/theosophic traditions?

OK, hope I've not trailed too much off the topic, there isn't a thread here which discusses anthroposophy/theosophy by the way?
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« Reply #36: January 08, 2008, 08:14:09 am »

Not sure about the Dutch traditions, but is this also connected to anthroposophy/theosophy? A lot of stuff anthroposophic paesants, healers etc. do here in Germany looks pagan/magic, but they call themselves Christians. Have the Dutch colonies also been influenced by those anthroposophic/theosophic traditions?

OK, hope I've not trailed too much off the topic, there isn't a thread here which discusses anthroposophy/theosophy by the way?

Actually, Pennsylvania Dutch IS German - it's a mangling of Deutsch.
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« Reply #37: January 08, 2008, 09:32:19 am »

This is slightly off-topic, but does anyone know if that refers to the black forest in south-western Germany? (I happen to come from this region.)
Probably not in any meaningful way.  The tradition is very definitely an American variant of neoPagan religious witchcraft.  Those who came up with the name may have intended to evoke the mystery/romance of it (lots of "old country" stuff has that sort of cachet in North America) or imply a (pseudo)history of originating there (with reference to the collective "surviving Old Religion" mythos), but I doubt if there's an actual connection.

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« Reply #38: January 08, 2008, 09:40:15 am »

Not sure about the Dutch traditions, but is this also connected to anthroposophy/theosophy? A lot of stuff anthroposophic paesants, healers etc. do here in Germany looks pagan/magic, but they call themselves Christians. Have the Dutch colonies also been influenced by those anthroposophic/theosophic traditions?
Anthroposophy/theosophy only date to the late 19th/early 20th century, whereas Wikipedia says, "The Pennsylvania Dutch (perhaps more strictly Pennsylvania Deitsch or Pennsylvania Germans or Pennsylvania Deutsch) are the descendants of German immigrants who came to Pennsylvania prior to 1800."

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« Reply #39: January 08, 2008, 03:06:42 pm »

Anthroposophy/theosophy only date to the late 19th/early 20th century, whereas Wikipedia says, "The Pennsylvania Dutch (perhaps more strictly Pennsylvania Deitsch or Pennsylvania Germans or Pennsylvania Deutsch) are the descendants of German immigrants who came to Pennsylvania prior to 1800."

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« Reply #40: January 08, 2008, 03:11:35 pm »

Anthroposophy/theosophy only date to the late 19th/early 20th century, whereas Wikipedia says, "The Pennsylvania Dutch (perhaps more strictly Pennsylvania Deitsch or Pennsylvania Germans or Pennsylvania Deutsch) are the descendants of German immigrants who came to Pennsylvania prior to 1800."

I have "Pennsylvania Dutch" ancestry and I can say with relative certainty that my ancestors are GERMAN. Wink
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