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Question: What are your views on infant circumcision?
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« Topic Start: November 27, 2007, 02:03:51 pm »

I already have my opinions pretty firmly set on this matter (I tend to soap-box with this one). But I'm trying to guage the views mainly of the Pagan community as well as anyone else here who feels like voting.

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« Reply #1: November 27, 2007, 02:09:54 pm »

I already have my opinions pretty firmly set on this matter (I tend to soap-box with this one). But I'm trying to guage the views mainly of the Pagan community as well as anyone else here who feels like voting.

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There ARE some medical reasons to circumcise, and if I lived in a country with poorer health care, I'd think differently on the subject.

But here?  I don't see a strong reason to, and I didn't want to deal with wound care and the like.  So I didn't.  But if for some reason it became medically necessary, I'd change my opinion on it.
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« Reply #2: November 27, 2007, 02:15:51 pm »


None of the above.  I have no opinion on the subject.  I don't consider myself "undecided" or in need of more information; it's just a non-issue to me.  If my next child is a boy I suppose Hubby and I will have to figure out what we want to do (or not do), but until then...  *shrug*  Neither for nor against.
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« Reply #3: November 27, 2007, 03:00:41 pm »

There ARE some medical reasons to circumcise, and if I lived in a country with poorer health care, I'd think differently on the subject.
Pretty much my thoughts on the matter as well.

Of course, I'm female and have no children so I'm not sure I actually merit an opinion...  Still, I feel pretty strongly about needless medical procedures performed on people who have no say in the matter.  (I get disgusted when I see babies with pierced ears, too.)
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« Reply #4: November 27, 2007, 03:41:18 pm »

I already have my opinions pretty firmly set on this matter (I tend to soap-box with this one). But I'm trying to guage the views mainly of the Pagan community as well as anyone else here who feels like voting.

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We chose to circumcise.  Neither of us really bought into the recent trends that all but equate circumcision with being the source of primal scream style traumas and emotional issues regarding sex and gender that have become favored by the 'all things natural' movements that tend to try to paint the loss of foreskin as a loss of identity and 'rightness' in a child.  Then again, the same movements can get as extreme as touting Ferber is the equivalent of Satan, and breastfeeding dictating that a child that wont objectify women. 

Perhaps a case of men self defining based upon the appearance of their genitalia is more the issue.  Whether you have a great work ethic, high IQ, and read before 6mo all revolves around the size, shape and varying proportions of the ever important package.

I think it has more to do with dad's feelings regarding his own masculinity, tying the negative psychological baggage of coming to adulthood/manhood to the act of circumcision.  Oedipal even. 
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« Reply #5: November 27, 2007, 03:45:38 pm »

I feel pretty strongly about needless medical procedures performed on people who have no say in the matter.  (I get disgusted when I see babies with pierced ears, too.)

That's the only reason why I would have a problem with it. Beyond that, I could care less. I don't see a reason for it, but I understand if some people do (religious or otherwise).

But I do not like to see procedures that are not medically  necessary performed on individuals who have no say in the matter.
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« Reply #6: November 27, 2007, 03:50:29 pm »



It is too late to change my mind now. Twelve years ago when I had my son We decided to have it done.
I don't know if I would get it done today or not.
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« Reply #7: November 27, 2007, 04:02:43 pm »

That's the only reason why I would have a problem with it. Beyond that, I could care less. I don't see a reason for it, but I understand if some people do (religious or otherwise).

But I do not like to see procedures that are not medically  necessary performed on individuals who have no say in the matter.

My son was circumcised.  It was 20 years ago and I don't remember them asking me.  They must have asked my husband.  I just accepted it as fact at the time. 

I did just now ask my son if it bothered him that we had him circumcised and he said he is glad we did (at least I don't feel guilty).   Wink
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« Reply #8: November 27, 2007, 04:05:38 pm »

I already have my opinions pretty firmly set on this matter (I tend to soap-box with this one). But I'm trying to guage the views mainly of the Pagan community as well as anyone else here who feels like voting.

Thanks for taking the time to vote/ comment!

We did it cause dad was, better now that later.  I personally know 4 little boys, whose parents I know well enough to talk about it, who had to be snipped when older.  Most of the little boys I know, I don't know whether or not they were snipped in infancy.

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« Reply #9: November 27, 2007, 04:07:51 pm »

I already have my opinions pretty firmly set on this matter (I tend to soap-box with this one). But I'm trying to guage the views mainly of the Pagan community as well as anyone else here who feels like voting.

Thanks for taking the time to vote/ comment!

If Chris and I have boys, we won't be circumsizing them.  He isn't circumsized, for one, and my personal experience with men cut and uncut, well, I'll be blunt: the uncut men just seem to be happier with the whole thing (har har).  If our child would like to get cut later in life, that's his choice, and I'll support it.

Echoing Shad, medical problems bring up different circumstances and may change my stance.
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« Reply #10: November 27, 2007, 04:20:07 pm »


I would say that I agree with male circumcision in infants for medical/hygenic reasons. Yet due to a story I was told by one of my closest friends a few years ago I am for male circumcision for another reason, too. Let's just say in some males there is a possiblity that when having sex...something not nice can happen to the foreskin and there is a lot of blood. Oh gosh I can't say anymore than that. My poor, poor friend.
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« Reply #11: November 27, 2007, 04:22:18 pm »

I would say that I agree with male circumcision in infants for medical/hygenic reasons. Yet due to a story I was told by one of my closest friends a few years ago I am for male circumcision for another reason, too. Let's just say in some males there is a possiblity that when having sex...something not nice can happen to the foreskin and there is a lot of blood. Oh gosh I can't say anymore than that. My poor, poor friend.

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« Reply #12: November 27, 2007, 04:29:11 pm »

I would say that I agree with male circumcision in infants for medical/hygenic reasons. Yet due to a story I was told by one of my closest friends a few years ago I am for male circumcision for another reason, too. Let's just say in some males there is a possiblity that when having sex...something not nice can happen to the foreskin and there is a lot of blood. Oh gosh I can't say anymore than that. My poor, poor friend.

My first husband was the result of a botched circumcision.  His nerve endings never came back.  Damned if you do, damned if you don't, it would seem Smiley
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« Reply #13: November 27, 2007, 04:31:37 pm »

My first husband was the result of a botched circumcision.  His nerve endings never came back.  Damned if you do, damned if you don't, it would seem Smiley

Oh gosh. Yeah, it would seem that way wouldn't it.
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« Reply #14: November 27, 2007, 04:47:04 pm »



You may also want to compare reactions between the US where most males are circumsised vs europe where they are not. Being different has it's disadvantages.
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