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Question: What are your views on infant circumcision?
For it, for religious reasons
For it, for hygenic reasons
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« Reply #15: November 27, 2007, 04:55:21 pm »

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I voted for, but without any real conviction on the answer. I am, and we had our son done when he was born. That was over 14 years ago, it was pretty much automatic IIRC. I'm 43 and I don't know if it's age or maybe it's geographical or something, but when was born I think it was the norm to be circumcised. Growing up and being in the locker room or later in the Navy, I think I was almost shocked the first time I saw someone that wasn't.

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« Reply #16: November 27, 2007, 05:15:06 pm »

You may also want to compare reactions between the US where most males are circumsised vs europe where they are not. Being different has it's disadvantages.

Where makes such a difference - says the now canadian brit Wink
I was asked never even asked when my other son was born - this time round I was asked and I said no. The difference an ocean makes I guess.
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« Reply #17: November 27, 2007, 05:34:30 pm »

I already have my opinions pretty firmly set on this matter (I tend to soap-box with this one). But I'm trying to guage the views mainly of the Pagan community as well as anyone else here who feels like voting.

Thanks for taking the time to vote/ comment!

I made the very informed decision not to have my son clipped.  I looked at the data, and there just doesn't seem to be a compelling enough reason to have it done.  I've never actually met anyone who's had a problem being uncirced (my husband isn't, nor were several men I've...<cough>..."known" in the past).  My kid's never had so much as a bladder infection, and (being a teenager) despite his less-than-impecable hygene.  Wink

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« Reply #18: November 27, 2007, 08:59:11 pm »

I am overall against it, mainly because it's just the norm here in the U.S.... and that's reversed in Europe. I don't like things being done just to fit in. lol. It's the normal state of the penis to have a foreskin, and that's good enough reason to *not* have it done for me!

Also, guys that are uncircumcised have greater feeling because the head hasn't been desensitized over the years. lol. The only guy I've been with is uncircumcised, and this is probably too much information, but it's a major issue for him to pull the skin back. He's probably one of those that the tendon or whatever would snap if it was forced suddenly and blood... and stuff. *shudder*

Anywho... I know he would have preferred to have been cut when he was an infant for the reason he *wouldn't* remember it... he would do it now except for the pain involved in a surgical procedure of that type, and also I'm sure there's some psychological stuff... like having the skin of your stomach taken off and having to live with looking at your guts all the time. lol.

So the possibility of a complication like the above might be a reason to have it done as an infant. I however still think that it's the natural state for it to be in, and just to leave it alone.
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« Reply #19: November 27, 2007, 09:20:36 pm »

You may also want to compare reactions between the US where most males are circumsised vs europe where they are not. Being different has it's disadvantages.

From my own experience, guys in the UK think to be circumcised is weird: and if you are, they presume that you are Jewish. Yet in the US I would say that a lot of guys would think that not being circumcised is weird. My husband is American and he is a prime example. He was actually worried that I wouldn't like the fact that he was, because I'm British and it's not the social norm here. Therefore I guess society can play a huge part in it.
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« Reply #20: November 27, 2007, 11:08:14 pm »

I already have my opinions pretty firmly set on this matter (I tend to soap-box with this one). But I'm trying to guage the views mainly of the Pagan community as well as anyone else here who feels like voting.

Other -- I don't think it matters one way or another (at least not in first and most second world countries).
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« Reply #21: January 21, 2008, 12:24:18 am »

Perhaps a case of men self defining based upon the appearance of their genitalia is more the issue.  Whether you have a great work ethic, high IQ, and read before 6mo all revolves around the size, shape and varying proportions of the ever important package.

I can personally say, having had the procedure done to me, as an adult I wish it wasn't so. The next part of my post will get graphic, but just so everyone can get a good idea of what it's like, I'll share with you.

Graphic stuffs:

Initially I didn't know why I had this strange start/stop feeling on the bottom length of my manhood, right at the head of it. After having foot surgery done, I instantly connected the dots during some.. personal time I had. Basically, it's as if somebody is running their finger along your skin, and then suddenly they're an inch farther away without stopping. It's like the finger met a teleport and suddenly boom, somewhere else. It's like that with me. It improves my endurance during coitus but to be honest with you sex is boring. A: I haven't been with too many women who've done more than pretended to be a corpse for my non-existent necrophilia fetish and B: I can't really feel all what I know I should be feeling. I've had my little Johnson slammed in a door, zipped up in my fly twice and one of which removed a chunk of skin and finally it was mauled by a vicious quail when I accidentally took a leak on her in the woods. Honestly those experiences weren't too painful and I know they should be.

So knowing what a surgical procedure does to the sense of touch really helped me understand what I would be experiencing and how much I'm missing.

/NSFW

Anyways, if anyone stumbles across this subject like I did, I hope my little personal testimony can shed some light on the issue to people who might not understand entirely.
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« Reply #22: January 21, 2008, 05:56:35 pm »

I already have my opinions pretty firmly set on this matter (I tend to soap-box with this one). But I'm trying to guage the views mainly of the Pagan community as well as anyone else here who feels like voting.

Thanks for taking the time to vote/ comment!

To echo what others have said, I don't like it when a non-essential medical procedure is done on someone who has no say in the matter.
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« Reply #23: February 15, 2008, 07:02:47 pm »

I already have my opinions pretty firmly set on this matter (I tend to soap-box with this one). But I'm trying to guage the views mainly of the Pagan community as well as anyone else here who feels like voting.

Thanks for taking the time to vote/ comment!

Neither of my sons were circumcised.  Basically I read up on it when I was pregnant with my first son.   I had a really strong feeling against it. 

When he was born, one of the nurses there asked if I was going to have it done.  I said no, I didnt feel it was a necessary thing, and she said good, because some little boys need it done for medical reasons, but my son didnt.  He actually a few years later after that, had a doctor examine him when he went in the hospital for medical testing, and he started to put down circumcised, and I said, no, uncircumcised.  He said well it is a good thing I didnt pay for it to be done, because he sure didnt need it.  So while I put no, against it for other reasons, I would say in general that is true, however if there is a medical reason I would do it.

I have known of instances where they should have been for medical reasons, but all things being equal, I would say no. 

Now, knowing what I do about our genetic disorder, it was probably a good thing I didnt, as stress tends to cause deterioration, and my son is already retarded.  And I would think that circumcision would be stressful.  Not to mention, locally they dont even medicate the poor kid before removing the foreskin, at least at the time of my son's birth.  I would think that would HAVE to be painful!

I might add that my first husband thought I was a little odd, but quickly agreed with me when he heard it would cost him money to have it done.  Roll Eyes

My second husband agreed with me to not have it done.   Both times the grandparents on the father's side thought it was an odd decision.  My side could care less. 

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« Reply #24: February 18, 2008, 08:42:36 pm »

I already have my opinions pretty firmly set on this matter (I tend to soap-box with this one). But I'm trying to guage the views mainly of the Pagan community as well as anyone else here who feels like voting.

Thanks for taking the time to vote/ comment!

I'm against it, but I certainly won't object if it has to be done for medical reasons, or if the area you live in isn't known to have a good supply of water for bathing and so leading to hygiene issues.  My own brother is uncut (I found this out when we had company for dinner one night) and as far as I know, he's never had problems. Heck the family doc at the time said "Leave him alone. Let him make some girl happy." I guess that was taken as a ringing declaration of professional approval.
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« Reply #25: February 18, 2008, 09:09:33 pm »

My own brother is uncut (I found this out when we had company for dinner one night)
I...need you to flesh out (HA!) this story a bit.  And by "need" I mean the thing well beyond "want".  Wink

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« Reply #26: February 19, 2008, 12:13:51 am »

I...need you to flesh out (HA!) this story a bit.  And by "need" I mean the thing well beyond "want".  Wink
Yes.  It seemed to me like a very odd time for something like that to be disclosed.  So, like Brina, I have an itch of curiosity that, while I don't "need" in the sense of "will die without", if I don't get it scratched it'll drive me bonkers.

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« Reply #27: February 19, 2008, 01:10:17 am »

Yes.  It seemed to me like a very odd time for something like that to be disclosed.

You dont even want to know what I imagined.
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« Reply #28: February 19, 2008, 06:12:48 pm »

I'm against it, but I certainly won't object if it has to be done for medical reasons, or if the area you live in isn't known to have a good supply of water for bathing and so leading to hygiene issues.  My own brother is uncut (I found this out when we had company for dinner one night) and as far as I know, he's never had problems. Heck the family doc at the time said "Leave him alone. Let him make some girl happy." I guess that was taken as a ringing declaration of professional approval.

Very odd dinner conversation...rather like that episode in 'Meet the Fockers' but the other way around.
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« Reply #29: February 20, 2008, 01:54:15 pm »

Quote from: Brina
I...need you to flesh out (HA!) this story a bit.  And by "need" I mean the thing well beyond "want".

Quote from: Sunflower
Yes.  It seemed to me like a very odd time for something like that to be disclosed.  So, like Brina, I have an itch of curiosity that, while I don't "need" in the sense of "will die without", if I don't get it scratched it'll drive me bonkers.

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You dont even want to know what I imagined.

Very odd dinner conversation...rather like that episode in 'Meet the Fockers' but the other way around.

Ugh, let me put it this way: There's very little nowadays, esp. with the company we keep and me being a young adult, that is taboo conversation.  I don't even remember how on earth we even got to the topic of circumcision. Anyway, at the time my first thought was "Hmm, didn't know that" promptly followed by, "Yeah......thanks, Mom......even though I really didn't need to know that." 

/pause

I'm not going to live this one down am I?
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