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« Reply #15: December 04, 2007, 09:11:33 pm »

He is a great author. Whether you have Wiccan leanings or not, Cunningham's books are not only interesting, but his writing style is so down-to-earth it makes for a lovely read.

I think I've enjoyed some of Cunningham's work. I can't remember, though, if he wrote the book I'm thinking of, or not. I should pick up some of his books again. (Even though I'm not Wiccan the subject DOES interest me.)
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« Reply #16: December 04, 2007, 10:39:58 pm »

He is a great author.

He's a good author -- at least when writing on subjects he knows well. But I don't think I'd consider him a great author.
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« Reply #17: December 05, 2007, 09:08:27 am »

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« Reply #18: December 05, 2007, 02:43:38 pm »

hmm, what a peculiar statement. Are you saying you have or have not read him? He is not fluffy. If you have read him, you would know that. For fluffy (a word and idea I detest, but anyway...) try Poppy Palin, or anyone else who advises that you don't bother trying to understand or learn more about Craft and just do whatever feels good to you.

Actually, I have read 3 books from him. Earth Power, Wicca: A Guide for the Solitary Practitioner, and another one about Wiccans practicing in the city. It's just my opinion, but I personally don't like him.
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« Reply #19: December 05, 2007, 03:09:52 pm »

Actually, I have read 3 books from him. Earth Power, Wicca: A Guide for the Solitary Practitioner, and another one about Wiccans practicing in the city. It's just my opinion, but I personally don't like him.
I wouldn't call Scott fluffy, exactly.  In Solitary Practitioner, he does come off as too much of a "white lighter" for my taste.  (For want of a better term.  What I mean is it all seems a bit "sanitized for your protection".  He appears to take the Rede as a call to pacifism, and to have removed some of the "ickier" bits from his version of Wicca, among other things.) 

But his information is pretty solid.  He doesn't spew the usual rubbish you'd find in, say $RW or McCoy.  I love his Encyclopedia of Magical Herbs to death. 

Those are the only two books I've read of his.
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« Reply #20: December 05, 2007, 03:30:04 pm »

I love his Encyclopedia of Magical Herbs to death. 

I have most of his books. His gemstone book and Incense, Oils, and Brews get a lot of use in my house. Wink
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« Reply #21: December 05, 2007, 06:46:51 pm »

I wouldn't call Scott fluffy, exactly.  In Solitary Practitioner, he does come off as too much of a "white lighter" for my taste.  (For want of a better term.  What I mean is it all seems a bit "sanitized for your protection".  He appears to take the Rede as a call to pacifism, and to have removed some of the "ickier" bits from his version of Wicca, among other things.)
What I've always figured is, it reflected Scott's own nature - from all reports, he really was that nice and sweet and gentle of a guy.  As for "removal of icky bits", well, I'd venture that the absence of the Great Rite has more to do with it being impractical and theologically iffy in a solitary practice, than with prudery; that applies to some extent to other possible sexual content.

I don't really disagree with your assessment, though; I just think that most of the "sanitation" wasn't for anyone's protection, but an accurate depiction of Scott's own solitary practices.  It's not Wicca from a Traditionalist POV (not from "sanitization" but simply because it's solitary), but it's sound, though markedly "sunny-side-up", neoPagan religious Witchcraft.

(There are those ubiquitous eggs again... that gives me a whisper of an idea for a humor article.)

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« Reply #22: December 05, 2007, 09:25:21 pm »

For fluffy (a word and idea I detest, but anyway...) try Poppy Palin, or anyone else who advises that you don't bother trying to understand or learn more about Craft and just do whatever feels good to you.

Hmm...I have something by Poppy Palin.  It's actually a gathering of essays on magic by several different authors.  I'll have to read her essay and report back on where it rates on the fluffometer.
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« Reply #23: December 06, 2007, 11:04:05 am »

I have most of his books. His gemstone book and Incense, Oils, and Brews get a lot of use in my house. Wink

I use the metal and gemstones and magical herbalism books all the time. Have to get the kitchen witch book and the incense and oils books. I agree that  his writing style is quite airy fairy, but this, to me, is not a factor in determining whether there is something of value in a book. I only read craft books for specific purposes, or to learn about specific topics.
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« Reply #24: December 06, 2007, 02:01:17 pm »

but this, to me, is not a factor in determining whether there is something of value in a book. I only read craft books for specific purposes, or to learn about specific topics.

Same here, but I couldn't tell you when I last bought one. All the ones on my shelves predate 1995, iirc.
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« Reply #25: December 06, 2007, 04:34:18 pm »

Same here, but I couldn't tell you when I last bought one. All the ones on my shelves predate 1995, iirc.

The only Craft thingy I have going right now is Temple of Shamanic Witchcraft, by Christopher Penczak, but I am bummed b/c most of the stuff in it I already know, or do. But he has so many good citations, and he is so clear and direct, it helps me know where I want to go next, so will likely keep slogging through. For my Kali group, I'm also reading a really wonderful book by David Kinsley about the the Ten Mahavidyas called Tantric Visions of the Divine Feminine Also the Fairies encyclopedia by Kathryn Briggs is great fun, that is my current bathtub book.

I am reading too many things right now. The stack next to my bed is starting to annoy my husband b/c he keeps knocking it over.

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« Reply #26: December 06, 2007, 04:57:45 pm »

The stack next to my bed is starting to annoy my husband b/c he keeps knocking it over.

My to be read pile got so huge it now has its own bookshelf. :rolls eyes:
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« Reply #27: December 06, 2007, 11:00:30 pm »

The only Craft thingy I have going right now is Temple of Shamanic Witchcraft, by Christopher Penczak, but I am bummed b/c most of the stuff in it I already know, or do.

I think he's a good author, because at least if you disagree he generally explains, in-depth, why he believes that way and he supports it. I think that's part of the largest reason why there are so many "no-no authors" out there, because they don't explain why they believe that way. Silver Ravenwolf, for example, spews fallacies often as not with little explanation. The portrayal of Wicca and Witchcraft (if anybody differentiates) that she teaches wouldn't be so scrutinized (or maybe it would, haha) if she backed it up with logic.

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Anyhow, it probably would be advisable to look at the publishers of the "no-no authors", whoever they may be. Llewellyn, the publisher of many neopagan authors, hits and misses on many. I'm always super careful when looking at an unfamiliar author from there, because they seemingly publish anything that might make money. That's not to say they don't publish good information texts (because they do have a few good authors, many of them already talked about here) but. . they also publish Silver Ravenwolf, which, in my opinion, is their largest fault. Just a thought about publishing companies.
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« Reply #28: December 11, 2007, 03:52:17 am »

I think that's part of the largest reason why there are so many "no-no authors" out there, because they don't explain why they believe that way.
That also annoys me a lot. For example Ted Andrews (Animal Speak) has a lot of interesting ideas and includes all traditions of the world he can get hold of in his books, but often doesn't explain what's the difference between them and why he takes this aspect from this tradition and that from another one. Not a "no-no author", but still a bit questionable.

Then there's also those who say things like 'such and such practices are completly unnecessary' or 'such and such beliefs are neo-shamanic rubbish' without explaining why. That strikes me just as dogmatic bias against different beliefs/practices if they don't explain what they have against them.
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« Reply #29: December 14, 2007, 10:22:38 pm »



Any good books etc, etc, etc? About any subject of Paganism?

From one "newbie" to another... i would suggest

anything by Scott Cunningham

Marian Green " a Witch alone"

Carl McColman " before you cast a spell "

i have found a lot of useful information and teaching techniques in these books. Some others that i like are

Starhawk, deborah lipp and Ed fitch.
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