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« Topic Start: December 06, 2007, 09:26:06 pm »

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I was looking around in the local Goodwill today and found a book called Spiral Dance by someone called Starhawk for only .75. Since it was so cheap, I went ahead and bought it. Is it any good or did I waste my money?
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« Reply #1: December 06, 2007, 09:48:23 pm »


Completely ignore her history - she's got a big ye old matriarchy from olden days thing going.

Otherwise, though, it's an EXCELLENT book.  if I could find my copy, I'd read it again for inspiration, like I do some other books.  (unfortunately, the house ate it).

it IS feminist in slant, but it's not man-bashing.
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« Reply #2: December 06, 2007, 10:03:02 pm »

Completely ignore her history - she's got a big ye old matriarchy from olden days thing going.

Otherwise, though, it's an EXCELLENT book.  if I could find my copy, I'd read it again for inspiration, like I do some other books.  (unfortunately, the house ate it).

it IS feminist in slant, but it's not man-bashing.

Spiral Dance was my very first witchy book way back in the day. Still love it. Love going to Reclaiming events. It is very No. CA. flavor tradition.
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« Reply #3: December 06, 2007, 10:17:16 pm »

I was looking around in the local Goodwill today and found a book called Spiral Dance by someone called Starhawk for only .75. Since it was so cheap, I went ahead and bought it. Is it any good or did I waste my money?

As Shadow said, ignore the history. It's bad. Ignore some of the feminist stuff uif it seems a bit excessive in places, but most of the rest of the info is good. The exercises are EXCELLENT. They are worth the cost of the book by themselves.
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« Reply #4: December 06, 2007, 11:13:24 pm »

As Shadow said, ignore the history. It's bad. Ignore some of the feminist stuff uif it seems a bit excessive in places, but most of the rest of the info is good. The exercises are EXCELLENT. They are worth the cost of the book by themselves.

Ditto what Shadow and Randall have said.  It does get a bit heavy-handed with the feminist perspective (nothing wrong with that per se, just a little one-sided IMO), but don't let that dissuade you. On the whole, it's definitely worth keeping a copy around.  I'd say you found an excellent buy!
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« Reply #5: December 07, 2007, 01:27:32 am »

Hello!

I was looking around in the local Goodwill today and found a book called Spiral Dance by someone called Starhawk for only .75. Since it was so cheap, I went ahead and bought it. Is it any good or did I waste my money?

Being a male and having read it, I didn't mind the feminism so much. I think you found a very lucky buy. Smiley Her writing style is unique and captivating, and her discussion of various topics in neopaganism are thorough and thought-provoking. Happy reading!
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« Reply #6: December 07, 2007, 08:24:09 am »

Completely ignore her history - she's got a big ye old matriarchy from olden days thing going.

Otherwise, though, it's an EXCELLENT book.  if I could find my copy, I'd read it again for inspiration, like I do some other books.  (unfortunately, the house ate it).

it IS feminist in slant, but it's not man-bashing.

she does correect some of that history in the footnotes for the 30th anniverary edition.  but she doesn't make any actual changes to the text.
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« Reply #7: December 07, 2007, 01:15:20 pm »

she does correect some of that history in the footnotes for the 30th anniverary edition.  but she doesn't make any actual changes to the text.

I liked some of the footnotes at the time I read the book.  You could see where she basically held her hand up to a mistake.
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« Reply #8: December 07, 2007, 05:45:13 pm »

I liked some of the footnotes at the time I read the book.  You could see where she basically held her hand up to a mistake.
<nod> I really like that way of doing updated editions.  What has changed, how it has changed, and the reasoning behind it is all right there.

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« Reply #9: December 07, 2007, 05:50:50 pm »

I liked some of the footnotes at the time I read the book.  You could see where she basically held her hand up to a mistake.

The Twentieth Anniversary edition did this as well and it was very interesting to see how her ideas had changed and why. 
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« Reply #10: December 07, 2007, 05:55:05 pm »

The Twentieth Anniversary edition did this as well and it was very interesting to see how her ideas had changed and why. 

My mistake, why I wrote thirtieth, I don't know, that one is due out in a couple years, I think. And then we can see what else gets correctsed and how her views have evolved again
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« Reply #11: December 07, 2007, 06:27:45 pm »

I was looking around in the local Goodwill today and found a book called Spiral Dance by someone called Starhawk for only .75. Since it was so cheap, I went ahead and bought it. Is it any good or did I waste my money?
This is ironic enough that I wonder if the universe is trying to tell you something.

For almost anyone else, I'd say that'd be an excellent bargain at ten times the price.  I think that's true for you, too, but you might not think so at first.  There's quite a bit of material that relates directly to where you are currently (and is not readily found elsewhere), but a lot more that I suspect you'll be resistant to - had you, a few months down the road, posted that you were ready to revisit the M/F balance, and asked for book recommendations, this is almost certainly the book I'd have suggested.  And there's the irony:  I know from your posts that you don't think you're at that point, and, IIRC, aren't sure you'll ever want to go that route, but this could be a nudge to do so.  Take your time with it, put it aside for a while if you need to, but don't give up on it altogether; I think it may have things you need.  (Cue the Rolling Stones here.)

I'm going out on a bit of a limb here, since you're quite new to TC and I don't really know you yet; I'm going by the content of a half-dozen or so posts, and may be reading too much into this.  But you have put a fair bit of yourself into those posts, and the personal issues you've spoken of relate fairly directly to some of the content of the book.

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« Reply #12: December 07, 2007, 06:33:58 pm »

My mistake, why I wrote thirtieth, I don't know, that one is due out in a couple years, I think. And then we can see what else gets correctsed and how her views have evolved again
I wondered about that; I thought it was kind of early (it should be '09).

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« Reply #13: January 06, 2008, 09:25:53 am »

Hello!

I was looking around in the local Goodwill today and found a book called Spiral Dance by someone called Starhawk for only .75. Since it was so cheap, I went ahead and bought it. Is it any good or did I waste my money?

First book I ever read on the subject of any kind of paganism, and I'd say it's a really good introduction and actually includes a number of really good rituals. The politics may not appeal to everyone, but I certainly learned a lot from it. Hell, I went out and bought her book "Truth or Dare". Afterwards. That, I wouldn't recommend quite so much. That's some really radical feminism right there.
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« Reply #14: January 06, 2008, 01:42:06 pm »

First book I ever read on the subject of any kind of paganism, and I'd say it's a really good introduction and actually includes a number of really good rituals. The politics may not appeal to everyone, but I certainly learned a lot from it. Hell, I went out and bought her book "Truth or Dare". Afterwards. That, I wouldn't recommend quite so much. That's some really radical feminism right there.

Well, truth or Dare is political, not religious.  Starhawk sort of falls off the left end of the universe.  And I doubt she's nonradiacal about anything.
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