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« Reply #15: December 20, 2007, 02:39:58 pm »

"If God made and loves everyone," which I felt (and still feel) He/She did, then I could see no reason He/She would condemn people to hell since he made them as non-Christians, in Non-Christian cultures, without the benefit of Christian upbringing.

Goes along with the whole hypocritical idea of preaching an all loving, all forgiving God and then turning around and listing the exceptions.
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« Reply #16: December 20, 2007, 03:07:13 pm »

That's a nice concept. Yet I think *some* Christians *may* argue with you by saying you only feel like that because Satan has influenced you, lol.

You are, sadly, very correct. More so than you know. I have been condemned by Christian family members, Christian ministers, and so on for being seduced by the Devil and told that I preach the doctrine of the Anti-Christ. After all, according to some interpretations of Revelations, Universalism is the end-times world religion. It is sad that I have to deal with that accusation, but I do. Regularly really.

It's such a convient out really. I can't really argue with that statement since there is no right answer. It's like the child's game of "So are you still a pathological liar?" or "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?". There is no answer that doesn't make you wrong.

To tie this back into the original topic. The Universalism that I believe in is part of what I saught in religion. A God that truely is loving without exception. Like the old saying goes, you may stop loving God but God doesn't loving you.
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« Reply #17: December 21, 2007, 12:02:01 am »

what do you want out of your religious path?  Where is your spirituality leading you and what do you look to gain from it?

This echoes what many have already said, but...

A connection to the Divine, in my case personified by Brighid.
A better understanding of what my role is here in this life.
Peace.
Hope.
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« Reply #18: December 21, 2007, 04:01:47 am »

And so I ask of you, what do you want out of your religious path?  Where is your spirituality leading you and what do you look to gain from it?

All i really want/hope for is a better understanding of myself and a source of comfort and connectedness in hard times... But I'm someone who needs to believe in something Kiss
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« Reply #19: December 22, 2007, 05:42:07 pm »

My religious path is helping me to learn. To learn about myself, to learn about others, and to learn about the mysterious universe around me. It's a never-ending quest, and that's fine with me.

I agree with this. In addition to learning, my religion makes me feel good. The "soul enrichment" mentioned by FierFlye. I enjoy it. Feeling that connection with the Earth keeps things in check and gives me peace of mind. I am a speck in time; I want to make my experience as good as I can. My religion helps keep things in perspective, and not to sweat the small stuff.
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« Reply #20: December 26, 2007, 10:38:56 pm »

Iíve been asking myself a lot of really basic (and very hard) questions pertaining to spirituality lately.  In a different thread, Soulfire gave me this advice:(emphasis mine)

And so I ask of you, what do you want out of your religious path?  Where is your spirituality leading you and what do you look to gain from it?

You wouldn't believe how long it's taken me to answer this. My religion, simply put, gives me happiness. It gives me connection in a familial way with the deities I serve. It gives me a better understanding of the workings of the universe and my place in them. It gives me a paradigm in which I can meditate and understand myself.

But mostly, it gives me happiness.
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« Reply #21: December 27, 2007, 11:21:20 am »

You wouldn't believe how long it's taken me to answer this.

It's tough coming up with answers to simple questions, isnt' it? 
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« Reply #22: April 02, 2008, 08:15:56 pm »

Wow, I never thought about that before (people who are never exposed to Christianity).  Seems so obvious now. Roll Eyes

I could give you a mile long laundry list of Judeo-Christian conundrums and paradoxes like that.
Things that make you go, "hmmmm.." !
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« Reply #23: April 02, 2008, 08:26:07 pm »

Iíve been asking myself a lot of really basic (and very hard) questions pertaining to spirituality lately.  In a different thread, Soulfire gave me this advice:(emphasis mine)

And so I ask of you, what do you want out of your religious path?  Where is your spirituality leading you and what do you look to gain from it?

Actually, religion gives me nothing.  It's spirituality I seek, if anything.
That will give me all the things people here have already listed:  a oneness with nature and the universe, inner peace, a sense of knowing or purpose, etc.
All religion does is organize it and give it a common structure. I find that a little too impersonal and limiting, in most cases.
It's great if you want that feeling of belonging with others, a sense of spiritual community, I guess. 
I dislike organized religion, though, I really don't think anyone else can really tell me what my "path" is or what Deity is or is like.  They can suggest things, sure, but it's still up to us what we believe and which we choose.
Or maybe I'm just an iconoclast.   Tongue

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« Reply #24: April 02, 2008, 08:50:35 pm »


I dislike organized religion, though, I really don't think anyone else can really tell me what my "path" is or what Deity is or is like.  They can suggest things, sure, but it's still up to us what we believe and which we choose.
Or maybe I'm just an iconoclast.   Tongue



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« Reply #25: April 04, 2008, 03:58:10 pm »

And so I ask of you, what do you want out of your religious path?  Where is your spirituality leading you and what do you look to gain from it?

I want it to challenge me and that is what I am getting.  As well it I believe it is leading me to be more in touch with my ancestors and myself than any other path could offer me.
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