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« Topic Start: January 13, 2008, 02:57:08 pm »

My Dianic group is going to be making wands next month.  We are hiking out into the woods to find the right tree, cutting the branch, and then going back to make our wands. 

I'm all for arts and crafts projects, so it sounds like fun, but I can't for the life of me figure out what I'm going to use the wand for.  I've never seen a wand in use at Dianic rituals, there are athames and staffs, but no wands.

Anything I've ever read or heard about wands seems to be that they are used for 'directing energy', but the same seems to be true for athames.

What do you use your wand for?
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« Reply #1: January 13, 2008, 03:07:10 pm »

We are hiking out into the woods to find the right tree, cutting the branch, and then going back to make our wands.

 Huh Why cut branches off a living tree when you're going to be in a woods?  Why not use branches that have already fallen from the trees, instead of risking damage to a healthy living tree?  Just curious.
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« Reply #2: January 13, 2008, 03:11:53 pm »

What do you use your wand for?

Well, I'm not gong to be much help but I am interested in seeing the replies. Quite a while back I thought I should have a wand. I went out, found a lovely river willow tree that had even dropped the perfect branch to the ground. I took it home, carved it into spirals, sanded, wrapped it in beautiful copper wire and added a perfect crystal to each end. Then I consecrated it and.... never used it. I'm just an athame kind of witch,  I realized I had it on my altar because a book said I should, more than I ever felt a need for one.  So I trusted myself on that and just let it go. I think I found the poor thing stuck behind a bookcase when we moved, I gave it away at a faire.

However, I have known two witches who would not be without their wands, yet have little use for an athame. It is an interesting question.
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« Reply #3: January 13, 2008, 03:19:22 pm »

Huh Why cut branches off a living tree when you're going to be in a woods?  Why not use branches that have already fallen from the trees, instead of risking damage to a healthy living tree?  Just curious.

That was my thought too.  Sad

Haven't used a wand for years. Used to use one to cast a circle and make other such markings in dry earth.

Humm, a lightbulb just came on.....I do use pens (with deity markings) kind of like wands for magical writing purposes.
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« Reply #4: January 13, 2008, 03:20:54 pm »

Huh Why cut branches off a living tree when you're going to be in a woods?  Why not use branches that have already fallen from the trees, instead of risking damage to a healthy living tree?  Just curious.

When I was wild crafting herbs, I never took the entire plant, knowing what I was doing was a sort of pruning. Where I took a stalk of flowers or a branch of leaves, two would grow the next year. I thanked the plant, of course. I think taking the nature of trees into consideration, asking for a branch isn't awful. I have a beautiful dried branch from an ancient coastal redwood that I purposely asked the tree for and it was important to me to have it live and fresh from the mother for the ritual I was doing.   

But yes, I feel you need to take that into consideration and be careful how/where you cut/trim.
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« Reply #5: January 13, 2008, 03:28:28 pm »

Huh Why cut branches off a living tree when you're going to be in a woods?  Why not use branches that have already fallen from the trees, instead of risking damage to a healthy living tree?  Just curious.

Well, in taking the branch we are also making a commitment to the tree to work with it (well, it's species) for a year.  In a tree lore sort of way.  So part of find the wand is finding the right tree to create a relationship with. 

If it were just making a wand for the sake of making a wand, then I would just find a dropped branch.  Heck, I've got a whole maple tree lying in my backyard, I could make a 100 wands.
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« Reply #6: January 13, 2008, 04:43:41 pm »

What do you use your wand for?

I never thought I would be a wand person - I always used my athame - but then the right wand came along, and I can't imagine going back to my athame now.

I use it for casting circles and also balancing other people's chakras. 
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« Reply #7: January 13, 2008, 05:02:03 pm »

What do you use your wand for?

I have two wands, one is just a simple sanded twig, and the other is carved into spirals. I only use it to cast circles, though. I've read that both the wand and athame can be used that way, but I've always felt more drawn to wands than to athames. Probably my Harry Potter background, lol.
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« Reply #8: January 13, 2008, 06:19:26 pm »

Anything I've ever read or heard about wands seems to be that they are used for 'directing energy', but the same seems to be true for athames.

As I'm not Wiccan, I use a wand far more than I do a knife to direct energy.
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« Reply #9: January 13, 2008, 06:40:38 pm »

*snip* I took it home, carved it into spirals, sanded, wrapped it in beautiful copper wire and added a perfect crystal to each end. *snip*

I also had thought about using copper wire.  At first I was thinking that I'd use copper wire to wrap around one end for a handle, and carved a line from one end of the wand to the other, turning the wand as I went, for decoration.  (like a spiral with the wand through the center.)  I am thinking since copper is such a good conducter, it would be perfect for directing my own energy.

It would be great if I could get a piece of copper wire going all the way through the middle of the wand, but I think that'd be near impossible.  So instead I'm thinking of continuing the wire along the outside of the wand, instead of the carved line.  But how would I get it to stay in place?  It'd just be a single strand at that point. 
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« Reply #10: January 13, 2008, 07:26:46 pm »

Well, in taking the branch we are also making a commitment to the tree to work with it (well, it's species) for a year.  In a tree lore sort of way.  So part of find the wand is finding the right tree to create a relationship with. 

I do understand the desire to study and work with trees, but why not use a non-destructive means of establishing a relationship to a tree species?    Would you intentionally do harm to an animal that you're studying, just to establish a relationship with it?  Trees may not bleed, but removing branches can leave the tree open to disease and insect damage.  Just saying...
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« Reply #11: January 13, 2008, 08:58:50 pm »

I do understand the desire to study and work with trees, but why not use a non-destructive means of establishing a relationship to a tree species?    Would you intentionally do harm to an animal that you're studying, just to establish a relationship with it?  Trees may not bleed, but removing branches can leave the tree open to disease and insect damage.  Just saying...

I understand and do sympathesize with your point, but I really don't believe that cutting one small branch off a mature tree will do it harm.  Pruning and cutting back of plants is a common practice.  Trees lose branches to wind and animals with out ill effects.  I don't really see a problem with cutting the branch as a negative impact to the tree.  But I do kind of see the taking of the branch as a selfish act...

The idea is to wander around in the woods until I find a tree that is willing to communicate and give up a branch.  But your posts have made me realize that I can pick up a branch from the ground, and separately, find a tree that calls to me to communicate/work with it.
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« Reply #12: January 13, 2008, 10:42:54 pm »

My Dianic group is going to be making wands next month.  We are hiking out into the woods to find the right tree, cutting the branch, and then going back to make our wands. 

I'm all for arts and crafts projects, so it sounds like fun, but I can't for the life of me figure out what I'm going to use the wand for.  I've never seen a wand in use at Dianic rituals, there are athames and staffs, but no wands.

Anything I've ever read or heard about wands seems to be that they are used for 'directing energy', but the same seems to be true for athames.

What do you use your wand for?

I generally use my right index finger as a wand, and often wear a particular ring for the purpose of channeling and directing energy. But not always. I use my athame, if it seems like the thing to do, especially for writing in sand or dirt. I sometimes use a hawk feather I have, particularly if I am working with the East. I do have some branches from my own trees that have indicated to me that it is fine with them if I want to go to the trouble of making them into wands, and also some crystals that have said the same. But haven't been motivated yet. I figger if I need one, at least I have the stuff ready. I also think when we are asked to do things for a particular class or initiation, it's fine to go ahead and do it. In my witch training, making representational objects and tools was generally viewed as optional.
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« Reply #13: January 13, 2008, 11:10:01 pm »

I do understand the desire to study and work with trees, but why not use a non-destructive means of establishing a relationship to a tree species?    Would you intentionally do harm to an animal that you're studying, just to establish a relationship with it?  Trees may not bleed, but removing branches can leave the tree open to disease and insect damage.  Just saying...

Perhaps you could suggest a non destructive method.  Maybe hugging would work.  ;-)
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« Reply #14: January 14, 2008, 12:54:21 am »

>>>Anything I've ever read or heard about wands seems to be that they are used for 'directing energy', but the same seems to be true for athames.
What do you use your wand for?<<<

***Staffs are 'wands writ large', much as a cauldron is a 'big cup'---So, the same sort of thing you would use a staff for.

Much depends on which element you connect with wands.
In Feri, wands are air-and-intelect---- (pens, measuring sticks, conductors batons, stylus)
  They direct energy in a more 'soft focus' way than the sharp edge of the knife---they direct, not demand; measure, not dissect.
---I would be  much less inclined to 'invite' someone with the point of a blade.---nor would you cut a magical bond with a wand--

  think about the different 'feel'---and what they mean to *you*, or ask what they mean in your tradition.
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