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« Topic Start: January 16, 2008, 07:49:46 pm »

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ROME (AFP) — Pope Benedict XVI on Tuesday cancelled a speech at Rome's La Sapienza university in the face of protests led by scientists opposed to a high-profile visit by the head of the Catholic Church to a secular setting.

"Following the well-noted controversy of recent days ... it was considered appropriate to postpone the event," which had been set for Thursday, a Vatican communique said, in the first such cancellation in the face of hostility since the pope's election in April 2005.

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« Reply #1: January 16, 2008, 08:44:36 pm »


I've said it before, Ratzinger would love nothing more than to drag the world kicking and screaming back to the 1500s.
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« Reply #2: January 16, 2008, 10:43:29 pm »

I've said it before, Ratzinger would love nothing more than to drag the world kicking and screaming back to the 1500s.

Fortunately, he's unlikely to be Pope as long as JP II given he was 78 when elected.
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« Reply #3: January 16, 2008, 10:49:02 pm »

Fortunately, he's unlikely to be Pope as long as JP II given he was 78 when elected.

Let's see, he's 80 now and the average human life expectancy is around that age.  My guess is that his papacy will be shorter than JP II's.
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« Reply #4: January 17, 2008, 08:05:16 am »

Let's see, he's 80 now and the average human life expectancy is around that age.  My guess is that his papacy will be shorter than JP II's.

Is it longer than JP 1's yet?
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« Reply #5: January 17, 2008, 08:07:08 am »

Is it longer than JP 1's yet?

Yes, as JP I's lasted about a month as I recall.  I just checked, 33 days.
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« Reply #6: January 17, 2008, 10:09:06 am »

Yes, as JP I's lasted about a month as I recall.  I just checked, 33 days.

well, he'll be a hundred and something if he lives as long as JP11.

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« Reply #7: January 17, 2008, 02:39:53 pm »

I've said it before, Ratzinger would love nothing more than to drag the world kicking and screaming back to the 1500s.

Even tho I'm not Catholic, never have been Catholic, and mean no offense to those who are, I can't stand the man! I personally feel that he's pretty damn close to some/most/all of the Popes in the Mediaeval/Dark Ages in ideals of wanting the Church to be "God" and for people to be afraid of it since he was elected after JP2's death.
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« Reply #8: January 17, 2008, 05:04:52 pm »

Even tho I'm not Catholic, never have been Catholic, and mean no offense to those who are, I can't stand the man!

I've never been able to stand him. I thought he was a dangerous reactionary before he became pope.
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« Reply #9: January 17, 2008, 09:54:00 pm »

I've said it before, Ratzinger would love nothing more than to drag the world kicking and screaming back to the 1500s.

If I remember correctly that is what Koi said or implied back when he was made pope.
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« Reply #10: January 19, 2008, 06:40:00 pm »



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The pope -- who also faces criticism for perceived interference in Italian political and social affairs -- "has made more and more remarks on the theme of the necessary subordination of science to faith," Cosmelli said.

Does anybody know offhand, in what way has he been interfering in Italian political and social affairs?

And more over, why?  Western Europe is not the place to do that and expect any kind of success...and I would think most Italians would resent it just as much as Americans, if not moreso.
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« Reply #11: January 19, 2008, 07:13:17 pm »

And more over, why?  Western Europe is not the place to do that and expect any kind of success...and I would think most Italians would resent it just as much as Americans, if not moreso.

Just my guess, but Benedict is conservative and, what tends to go with that is a real desire for things not to change. Western Europe has undergone some tremendous changes over the last 20 years. I suspect a lot of his actions may be reflexive.
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« Reply #12: January 22, 2008, 06:07:22 pm »

And the beat goes on. I'm not Catholic and I'm obviously not Italian, but this sort of shit pisses me off...I don't care WHAT religion pulls it.

"Vatican 'meddling' as Italian minister quits"

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« Reply #13: January 22, 2008, 06:19:37 pm »

And the beat goes on. I'm not Catholic and I'm obviously not Italian, but this sort of shit pisses me off...I don't care WHAT religion pulls it.

Well, Ratzinger was as Cardinal, the Chief Inquistitor - so no surprise that he is not really the nice pope down the street that brings the Church into the 21. Century. He wants power and power to the one true faith *sarcasm* so such meddling does not surprise me. (Sidenote: since he is pope hundreds of exorcists are trained in rome and sent into the world. Don't know how openly this was done before, but he believes in the existence of the devil.)
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« Reply #14: January 22, 2008, 06:39:49 pm »

Well, Ratzinger was as Cardinal, the Chief Inquistitor - so no surprise that he is not really the nice pope down the street that brings the Church into the 21. Century. He wants power and power to the one true faith *sarcasm* so such meddling does not surprise me. (Sidenote: since he is pope hundreds of exorcists are trained in rome and sent into the world. Don't know how openly this was done before, but he believes in the existence of the devil.)

I thought he was a bad choice for pope when he was selected and I haven't seen a thing he's done yet to make me change my mind.

One thing I thought interesting in that article is that polling is showing slippage in Church approval. Can't imagine why...I mean, having someone who really wants to take you back 500 years or so shouldn't be a problem, should it?
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