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« Reply #90: March 16, 2008, 06:02:14 pm »

There is a time, and a place, for "everything happens for a reason". It should be "SOME things happen for a reason...most are just cause and effect" Wink
Heh... I think everything happens for a reason - it's just that it's not always some huge cosmic Purpose/Reason.  Sometimes it's a very mundane, unglamorous reason (like cause and effect - that's very concretely a reason), sometimes it's a silly or insignificant reason.

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« Reply #91: March 16, 2008, 10:23:01 pm »

...it's that she honestly has no conception of people for whom, f'ex, Intellect is not a dangerous object they might cut themselves with.

You may have something there. She is really into protecting people from having to actually think.
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« Reply #92: March 17, 2008, 07:16:55 pm »

Heh... I think everything happens for a reason - it's just that it's not always some huge cosmic Purpose/Reason.  Sometimes it's a very mundane, unglamorous reason (like cause and effect - that's very concretely a reason), sometimes it's a silly or insignificant reason.

That's what I meant LOL. I do think that not everything is some grand cosmic divine plan...and that we can change a good deal of what happens to us, and how we react to it. But by painting it as some grand cosmic divine plan, we're removing all perceived responsibility towards the situation. "We can't do anything about it because it's God's will."

Cause and effect can be manipulated. Wink
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« Reply #93: March 18, 2008, 03:31:54 pm »

That's what I meant LOL. I do think that not everything is some grand cosmic divine plan...and that we can change a good deal of what happens to us, and how we react to it. But by painting it as some grand cosmic divine plan, we're removing all perceived responsibility towards the situation. "We can't do anything about it because it's God's will."

Cause and effect can be manipulated. Wink
Heh.  Yep.  I don't believe in a self-aware, volitional "uber-being".  But I believe in my ability to create change; that's what being a witch is about.

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« Reply #94: March 19, 2008, 07:54:58 pm »

I think you are all trying to give SRW credit for more depth and subtlety than she actually possesses.

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Amen to that. Although, what I dont understand is how she has her Blackforest Clan covens all over the place...are they REALLY covens that are SRW bunnies or what?!
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« Reply #95: March 20, 2008, 04:08:04 pm »

Amen to that. Although, what I dont understand is how she has her Blackforest Clan covens all over the place...are they REALLY covens that are SRW bunnies or what?!

Theres a HP in this area who was trained in the Black Forest Clan tradition. I don't know if he was trained by SRW herself or not. Shocked
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« Reply #96: March 23, 2008, 11:56:25 am »

(Thank goodness I found Scott Cunningham's books. I highly reccomend them if you are trying to learn about Wicca.)

I just wanted to throw in my two cents here.   Smiley  I love Scott Cunningham's books.  I have almost all of them and they are the reason why I practice green magic.  Has anyone ever watched his herb video?  It's so endearing.  He made a lot of mistakes in the video (the part where the charcoal burst into smoke in his face was so funny) but it just showed that he was human and was able to laugh at himself.  I wish I had gotten the chance to meet him before his passing but I am eternally grateful that I was able to learn of him and his practices through his books.

As for Silver Ravenwolf, I remember reading once that she was in a diner and had no money to pay for the bill and so she prayed to the Goddess and a $20 bill floated down and she was able to pay the bill.  I was so offended by that.  To use the Goddess as an ATM is ridiculous.  I mean, I don't believe it really happened but the suggestion alone turned me off to her forever.
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« Reply #97: March 23, 2008, 12:06:40 pm »

As for Silver Ravenwolf, I remember reading once that she was in a diner and had no money to pay for the bill and so she prayed to the Goddess and a $20 bill floated down and she was able to pay the bill.  I was so offended by that.  To use the Goddess as an ATM is ridiculous.  I mean, I don't believe it really happened but the suggestion alone turned me off to her forever.

ROFL...oh dear. That's the first time I've heard that one.
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« Reply #98: March 23, 2008, 12:13:50 pm »

As for Silver Ravenwolf, I remember reading once that she was in a diner and had no money to pay for the bill and so she prayed to the Goddess and a $20 bill floated down and she was able to pay the bill.  I was so offended by that.  To use the Goddess as an ATM is ridiculous.  I mean, I don't believe it really happened but the suggestion alone turned me off to her forever.

Oh I remember that bit! ROTFL

I wasn't offended, more like WTF? Yea, RIGHT.

And yea. The deities are NOT your personal vending machines. Did the $20 have a dye pack attached by any chance? Cheesy
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« Reply #99: March 23, 2008, 08:02:32 pm »

As for Silver Ravenwolf, I remember reading once that she was in a diner and had no money to pay for the bill and so she prayed to the Goddess and a $20 bill floated down and she was able to pay the bill.  I was so offended by that.  To use the Goddess as an ATM is ridiculous.  I mean, I don't believe it really happened but the suggestion alone turned me off to her forever.

I've never heard that one - but in one of her books she was talking about doing mundane boring chores at work, and how she would dedicate her filing to the Goddess and it would just fly by.

And I was like - what a CRAPTASTIC offering!  Can I give my nail clippings and dirty kleenex, too?  sheesh!
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« Reply #100: March 24, 2008, 07:33:11 am »

And I was like - what a CRAPTASTIC offering!  Can I give my nail clippings and dirty kleenex, too?  sheesh!

I can see "putting things in order" being a good offeratory activity for some deities, actually.  But to dedicate it just because it's something you hate doing and this makes it go faster rather than because it's a fitting offering in any meaningful way--that's what hits me as making it craptastic.  Just as the Gods are not ATM machines, they're also not garbage disposals for us to throw our refuse into.  There are plenty of good reasons to choose something as an offering, but I don't think that's really one of them.

(Which may have been what you meant in the first place; I'm less responding directly to you and more just spinning off a thought your post brought up, here.)
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« Reply #101: March 24, 2008, 07:40:38 am »

I can see "putting things in order" being a good offeratory activity for some deities, actually.  But to dedicate it just because it's something you hate doing and this makes it go faster rather than because it's a fitting offering in any meaningful way--that's what hits me as making it craptastic.  Just as the Gods are not ATM machines, they're also not garbage disposals for us to throw our refuse into.  There are plenty of good reasons to choose something as an offering, but I don't think that's really one of them.

(Which may have been what you meant in the first place; I'm less responding directly to you and more just spinning off a thought your post brought up, here.)

Yes, it was the "I hate doing it, so I'll give it to the Goddess" attitude.

Not a holy offering, more a refuse pit.  And I KNOW that one's in there, 'cause I read it myself. Tongue
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« Reply #102: March 24, 2008, 12:43:43 pm »

As for Silver Ravenwolf, I remember reading once that she was in a diner and had no money to pay for the bill and so she prayed to the Goddess and a $20 bill floated down and she was able to pay the bill.  I was so offended by that.  To use the Goddess as an ATM is ridiculous.  I mean, I don't believe it really happened but the suggestion alone turned me off to her forever.

And silly-me takes the money always from the bank-account!
You think that trick would work for the utilities-bill too?
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« Reply #103: March 24, 2008, 01:23:57 pm »

And silly-me takes the money always from the bank-account!
You think that trick would work for the utilities-bill too?

It sure would.  Given how much modern technology goes against nature, The Goddess will make sure that the harmful effects of electricity won't tamper with your magick working.
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« Reply #104: March 24, 2008, 01:29:36 pm »

It sure would.  Given how much modern technology goes against nature, The Goddess will make sure that the harmful effects of electricity won't tamper with your magick working.

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