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« Reply #30: July 09, 2008, 02:09:47 am »

What if sexuality doesn't matter and the leader doesn't want to know?

I am, arguably, a spiritual leader.  And, quite frankly, I can't see where people's sexuality matters a damn unless they're running into problems.  I don't care if someone's gay, straight, transgender, etc.  I care that the person is comfortable with themselves and honest with themselves, but after that?  Not my problem!

Does it HAVE to matter?

I don't think it should matter, I was talking about the idea of the rituals, from what little I have seen so far of your path, none of it involves ritual sex, or even intimate touching so in your case it wouldn't matter, unless of course the person felt that they needed to talk to you about something important related to both religion and their sexuality.  My point was, even if you never do feel the need to talk to your spiritual leaders of it, you should not feel uncomfortable talking to them about it if the need arises for whatever reason.  Does that make sense?  I don't think I even understood what I was saying exactly... hope yall do.
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« Reply #31: July 09, 2008, 02:15:31 am »

That's something that I have always pondered; whether deities are truly genderless or not.

My deities appear as male and female to me, but I know that this is just my mind personifying them as it makes them much easier to relate and connect to. The feeling that I get from my female deity is very much a nurturing one- a quality that is associated with the female/feminine. Yet I don't necessarily see a link between the two. I don't enjoy the idea of categorising all qualities into the boxes of 'feminine' and 'masculine'. It's severely limiting. Not only to the deities, but to humans also.

I often here people talking of 'being in touch with their feminine side' or their 'masculine side'. It frustrates me, as when it comes down to it I have absolutely no idea what this means.

I think the whole feminine and masculine side are ideas based on the "accepted roles" of males vs. females in society.  Thus, a man who can see the romance in a moonlight serenade without wanting "some" is more intouch with his feminine side, and a 5'1", 110 lb. woman who can climb into the engine housing of an '89 Ford Bronco to get to the distributor without whining about the icky grease getting on her clothes is more intouch with her masculine side.  (Hehe, I love making men's eyes bug out, the above was me this past saturday...my hubby is used to me, his best friend... not so much.)

I think, too that societal norms are changing, they are becoming less polarized.  You don't see as much shock in people when they find a woman going out and working while the husband stays home and takes care of the kids, and it's not so odd to find men and women in positions traditionally held by the other.  I guess what determines the "feminin side" vs. the "masculine side" is purely in our heads, or rather in the heads of those who decide what is and is not normal for people.  As I tend not to believe in normality as a functional attribute of any person, I don't really fall for the whole thing myself.  To quote Popeye, "Iyam, what I yam, and that's all what I yam."
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« Reply #32: July 09, 2008, 07:38:12 am »

I don't think it should matter, I was talking about the idea of the rituals, from what little I have seen so far of your path, none of it involves ritual sex, or even intimate touching so in your case it wouldn't matter, unless of course the person felt that they needed to talk to you about something important related to both religion and their sexuality.  My point was, even if you never do feel the need to talk to your spiritual leaders of it, you should not feel uncomfortable talking to them about it if the need arises for whatever reason.  Does that make sense?  I don't think I even understood what I was saying exactly... hope yall do.

okay, that makes a LOT more sense to me.  Thanks.

I do agree that you should be comfortable with your spiritual leaders.  I just ....

I don't WANT to know! Cheesy  *crawls back under her box*
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