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« Topic Start: February 22, 2008, 03:59:04 pm »

Hi there.

So, on the suggestion of some of the members of the coven I'm currently studying with, I ordered Spirit of the Witch and The Wiccan Mysteries.  I got them both around the same time and started on Spirit of the Witch first.  I could only make it through about two chapters (normally, I'm a pretty fast reader -- I did Spiral Dance in an evening, and Drawing Down the Moon in less than a week).  I thought it might be that book, rather than Grimmasi's style of writing, so I picked up The Wiccan Mysteries instead.

Total bust.  I can't make it past the first five pages.  Is it just me, or does Grimmasi's writing style make it exceptionally hard to draw even the tiniest bit of useful information from his work?
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« Reply #1: February 22, 2008, 04:02:25 pm »

Total bust.  I can't make it past the first five pages.  Is it just me, or does Grimmasi's writing style make it exceptionally hard to draw even the tiniest bit of useful information from his work?

From what I've heard, it's not so much his writing style as the lack of useful information in the first place.
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« Reply #2: February 22, 2008, 04:03:33 pm »

Total bust.  I can't make it past the first five pages.  Is it just me, or does Grimmasi's writing style make it exceptionally hard to draw even the tiniest bit of useful information from his work?

I dunno about his writing style, but I can tell you that if he has any historical information included in his book, you're better off ignoring it. He's a  neo-pagan author with something he wants to prove and he twists and turns things so he can do it.
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« Reply #3: February 24, 2008, 11:16:56 pm »

I dunno about his writing style, but I can tell you that if he has any historical information included in his book, you're better off ignoring it. He's a  neo-pagan author with something he wants to prove and he twists and turns things so he can do it.

Quite true. If those books are anything like Italian Witchcraft or Way Of The Strega- also both by Grimassi- then they are utterly useless. Both of those books are, at best, basically neo-Wicca with a little oregano thrown in. Oh, and they're basically the same boom rearranged and republished under two different titles- the same graphics, the same information...there are whole passages from one book found in the other.

His "history" is ridiculous.
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« Reply #4: February 25, 2008, 10:17:27 am »

Quite true. If those books are anything like Italian Witchcraft or Way Of The Strega- also both by Grimassi- then they are utterly useless. Both of those books are, at best, basically neo-Wicca with a little oregano thrown in. Oh, and they're basically the same boom rearranged and republished under two different titles- the same graphics, the same information...there are whole passages from one book found in the other.

His "history" is ridiculous.


He wrote one book that had a whole section of crap on Hekate. That pushed him up to a temporary #1 above Ann Moura on my "Shit You Do Not Read" list. Then I sat back a couple of years ago and watched him "debate" the problems with the book with a Greek Recon over on another message board. I was even less impressed. He has a VERY loose interpretation on who is a scholar...apparently anyone who's got a degree and has been published qualifies. Probably explains why his history is so bad.
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« Reply #5: February 25, 2008, 10:47:15 am »

He wrote one book that had a whole section of crap on Hekate. That pushed him up to a temporary #1 above Ann Moura on my "Shit You Do Not Read" list. Then I sat back a couple of years ago and watched him "debate" the problems with the book with a Greek Recon over on another message board. I was even less impressed. He has a VERY loose interpretation on who is a scholar...apparently anyone who's got a degree and has been published qualifies. Probably explains why his history is so bad.

The book you mention happens to be the tattoo on my back
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Now, being one who has Hecate as a patron...there was something odd and weird about that being thrown into that book in such a way. It was a good read, don't get me wrong. But it didn't fit that book by any means.
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« Reply #6: February 25, 2008, 11:37:03 am »

The book you mention happens to be the tattoo on my back
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Now, being one who has Hecate as a patron...there was something odd and weird about that being thrown into that book in such a way. It was a good read, don't get me wrong. But it didn't fit that book by any means.

Raven had a case he wanted to prove there. His use of Von Rudloff as the be all end all of Hekate knowledge showed that which was a very, very bad thing to do. Both Eihdos and I look to Hekate and her discussion with Raven was head banging at best.
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« Reply #7: February 25, 2008, 05:33:03 pm »

Raven had a case he wanted to prove there. His use of Von Rudloff as the be all end all of Hekate knowledge showed that which was a very, very bad thing to do. Both Eihdos and I look to Hekate and her discussion with Raven was head banging at best.
Eihdos was the Recon he debated?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  I'm sorry I missed it; it must have been very entertaining.

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« Reply #8: February 25, 2008, 05:34:29 pm »

Eihdos was the Recon he debated?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  I'm sorry I missed it; it must have been very entertaining.

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Oh yeah. She and I were on chat during a lot of it so I'd go over and read it. Made my head hurt.
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« Reply #9: June 02, 2008, 05:41:49 pm »

at best, basically neo-Wicca with a little oregano thrown in.

My HP (BTW) calls Raven a "Fraudenarian". Although I've picked up several of Grimassi's books at Half-Price Books on the cheap, I certainly don't look to his work for reference material or practical information. For Wicca - I stick to the real classics: Gardner, Valiente.
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