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Author Topic: Honoring the Gods, Or Our Relationship with Deity  (Read 7591 times)
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« Reply #15: April 27, 2008, 09:58:01 am »

What do we need, when it comes to the gods? Or maybe it should be, what do they need, from us?

Maybe we need to answer the question: "What are the gods?" before we can think of figuring out what they need or want from us.

Personally, I do not believe the gods (of any pantheon or religion) are omnipotent.  They are beings of a different form, a higher order, if you will, but they are not untouchable, unknowable, or all-powerful.  I believe that they can "die", in a sense, and certainly that they can be diminished.  Also, just as they can touch and affect our human existence, we can touch and affect their "godly" existence.

So, what do the gods need or want from us?  They need us to believe in them, to honour them, and to direct some of our "energy" into them through our spiritual interactions with them.  Doing so strengthens our gods, and with that strength, they are better able to influence the world, hopefully in the best interests of their followers.

Mythology and folklore lends some support to the idea that the gods can be (are) diminished from the height of their power.  In the Book of Invasions and other texts, the gods are described as giants (throwing huge stones, straddling rivers, and so on).  In later texts, after they've retreated into the sidhe, they are human-size or smaller.  In the fairy and folk tales they are small creatures.  And finally in the folklore of the rural folk in some of the "Celtic" countries, a little over a hundred years ago, it was said to be imprudent to step on ants because you might accidentally step on one of the sidhe!  Of course, the physical size attributed to the gods is a metaphor for their power and influence in the world.

Now in this era (since the 1970's or thereabouts) there is a rebirth of Celtic spirituallity and the old gods are gaining followers at a rapid rate.  Their power is growing as a result, and their ability to influence the world is increasing.  If things keep going, it is possible that, in a few hundred years, the White House will hold daily devotions to the Celtic gods, just as they have daily prayers to Jesus and group Bible study there now. Undecided

"Dream no small dreams, for they have no power to move the hearts of men." - Goethe

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« Reply #16: August 18, 2008, 05:22:49 pm »

There has been a lot of discussion lately about honoring deity, specifically Celtic deities, and how those forms of worship (or whatever word may be used) have changed, should change or should not have changed over the years.

Specifically brought into question is whether certain small, domestic acts of reverence, as created by the practitioner and not attested to in the research or lore, are compatible with authentic Celtic practice and thinking. Many practitioners here I know have small acts of devotion they perform daily, prayers they recite, or offerings they give that are decidedly UPG and have never been claimed otherwise. And some of those practitioners I know are interested in domestic worship as performed, not only by the ancient Celts, but by many other religions as well.

Speaking as a Shaman I would say the best way to find out how to honour a god or goddess is to ask them personally what they desire us to do for them.

Speaking for myself, I would say the best way to find out would be to do which ever way you feel best. But still basing it on the small amount of info we know about it.
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