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« Reply #45: March 05, 2008, 01:34:06 pm »

On a larger scale, one also has to wonder if the rising trend of kids committing violent crimes might have something to do with the acceptance of violence in programming as a means of conveying an otherwise unpleasant message without concrete understanding or regard for the consequences. 

I think blaming cartons and also videogames on a violent society is way, way too simplistic and the easy way out. 

I agree with Madam Pyperline, I think children are not as fragile as people make out. 

On the notes of racism I don’t think that a lot of cartoons where racist, though as a child I always thought the black woman owned the house in Tom and Jerry lol.  Like Madam Pyperline has said I don’t think kids would make connections with those thing sin cartoon and normal people.  I didn’t think that the blackbirds in Dumbo were connected to some of my friends etc.   

I grew up watching the Simpsons, yes I laughed when Homer strangled Bart but I also knew that strangling people is wrong.

When the Pokemon craze was in full swing was there a massive increase in cruelty towards animals or uprisings in animal fights?  I’m guessing not very likely. It would be like saying that the fairytale Goldylocks and the Three Bears is linked to crimes like breaking and entering.

Like Melamphorus, I have also watched something considered inappropriate for my age.  I watched Nightmare on Elm Street when I was 5.  That had no impact on me other than not allowing me to enjoy horror films, I didn’t go disturbed and stabbing people.
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« Reply #46: March 05, 2008, 03:40:27 pm »



Everybody's a quarterback from the sidelines.

There are people out there who beat their kids based on the mentality that "it didn't hurt me none" as well. 

Doesn't make it true.
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« Reply #47: March 05, 2008, 04:31:48 pm »

Everybody's a quarterback from the sidelines.

There are people out there who beat their kids based on the mentality that "it didn't hurt me none" as well. 

Doesn't make it true.

I think that the only way to address this objectively is to look at what the research says.  The research is mixed.  There isn't any evidence that watching slash films will turns someone into an axe murderer.  But there is plenty of evidence that young children will imitate behavior they see on television.  Violent television particularly seems to have an impact on boys about 10 years old. 

There isn't a lot of evidence that watching an episode of violent television has a long term impact on the empathy of children or adults, but there is evidence that it has an impact for several hours.  For example, college students that watched slasher films reported less empathetic feelings towards women that were victims of domestic violence than those who watched a neutral film.  This effect was found the next day (I believe about 24 hours later) and was found to gradually subside as the week wore on. 

My biggest concerns about violence on tv or in video games are:

1)  Young kids will often imitate what they see without understanding the consequences.  Re-enactment of violence seems particularly likely with boys around 10 years old.  This might not seem a big deal, but when your kid comes home the victim of a "power ranger" kick, I suspect you might feel differently.

2)  While media violence doesn't cause folks to run up the bell tower and commence firing, it does seem to influence folks (even adults) to react in a less empathetic and more callous ways for a number of hours afterwards.  Even this might not be that big a deal except for the saturation of violence in American media does not allow for folks to "come down".  Because people are constantly exposed to that kind of material, they never have a chance to return to baseline.  Like I said, it doesn't mean that these people will start knocking over liquor stores or causing general mayhem, but it does make for a colder and less caring society.

Now, this doesn't mean that I think that violence on television should be banned.  I do think that people should think about what is best for their children and for society as a whole, and I would prefer they limit such material in their homes.

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« Reply #48: March 05, 2008, 07:12:50 pm »

I LOATHE Seinfeld. Seemed like everyone else in America LOVED it. Not me. I wanted to hide under the bed everytime it came on.

I dislike Spongebob too!

Me too, I hate both shows with a passion.

Desperate Housewives is so overrated and needs to go quietly away, especially Eva Longoria.  Roll Eyes

Lost is annoying too, maybe I just don't get it. 

Then there is Extreme Makeover: Home Edition.  It's like alright, we get it, you find the most pitiful family you can find and tear down their equally pitiful house and rebuilt a spectacular house in a week.  Uh, hello, can we all say "Ratings"?

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« Reply #49: March 05, 2008, 08:03:39 pm »

Then there is Extreme Makeover: Home Edition.  It's like alright, we get it, you find the most pitiful family you can find and tear down their equally pitiful house and rebuilt a spectacular house in a week.  Uh, hello, can we all say "Ratings"?

I dislike ABC because of this show.  They use pity to boost ratings and I find that to be utterly despicable.  If it wasn't for Jeopardy I would ignore that station all together.
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« Reply #50: March 06, 2008, 12:24:02 pm »


Damn, I almost forgot about those.  Don't forget the crows from Dumbo.

It's been so long since I've seen that movie, I don't even remember any crows.

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I know of one Bugs Bunny cartoon that has been banned on many stations because it is too violent.  I forget what it's called but it involves Bugs being a square dance proctor (or whatever the hell they're called) and telling a few good ol' boys to do violent things to each other for the vast majority of the cartoon.  Maybe it's just me, but where they see violence I see a classic.

Dude!  I loved that one!  I laughed my ass of every time I saw it.

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Oh, and of course there are also the always violent Roadrunner and Coyote cartoons that have never (afaik) been banned.

Meepmeep  Cheesy

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I think it was in York County, Virgina.  My mother and I were watching a show about urban legends and mentioned it.  Apparently the girl was having an epileptic seizure when she did it.

And she did this why?

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My mother let me watch Interview with the Vampire when I was probably about six or seven and well, you know.

Pff, coincidence. 

Actually, my brother and I both watched a lot of age-inappropriate things as kids.  And once I could read (not so much my brother, since he doesn't like to read), I read a lot of age-inappropriate things, too.  Really, my parent were fairly conservative on the behavior front (I acted up in public exactly once, according to my mother, which makes me wonder what they did to punish me that was so effective... Cheesy), but pretty liberal on the exposure front.  They really didn't worry about violent cartoons or whatever (TMNT, anyone?), so long as we seemed okay. 

I mean, the really pornographic romance novels were off limits, but that was remarkable for how unusual it was.  I was pretty much never banned from reading what I wanted (my mom even let me read Piercing the Darkness: Undercover with Vampires in America Today by Katherine Ramsland when I was 12 or so just because I found it when we were at Kroger, though admittedly, had she read it first she might not have Smiley ).  I could swear that Randall has said the same thing before, too, that his parents never really felt inclined to interfere in what he read.  I don't pretend I was an exceptionally happy, well-adjusted kid or anything (I don't think anybody would believe me if I did Cheesy), but I was more than okay reading things and watching things above my age level.  The shit that passed for books geared towards my age level would not have kept me occupied and out of trouble; the age-inappropriate stuff did.

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What about that paper towel commercial where the kid shakes up a bottle of soda and sprays it on his mother?  And she just sprays him with the spray-hose-thingy that is on some sinks?  If that was MY kid, he would get punished.

I've never seen that one, but my inclination would be to play Cinderella; here's a sponge and bucket of water, get to scrubbing.  When you're done w/that, we'll see what else needs cleaned, or if some weeds need pulled.


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« Reply #51: March 06, 2008, 12:31:51 pm »

Everybody's a quarterback from the sidelines.

There are people out there who beat their kids based on the mentality that "it didn't hurt me none" as well. 

Doesn't make it true.

There's a helluva difference between child abuse and cartoons.  Maybe there are kids who shouldn't be exposed to violent cartoons because they'll go out and try to imitate it, but not all kids are warped by Ed, Edd, and Eddy.

My parents believed in spanking, too, but that doesn't mean I would spank a kid.  It didn't hurt me none, no, but I don't think it's a particularly effective method for kids like me and my brother, either.  But then, maybe there's kids for whom it is the best method.

Leaving me more or less to my own devices in terms of what I watched and read worked out pretty well overall; spanking, while it didn't really harm me, was probably not the optimal method for getting my attention and good behavior.  But neither qualified as abusive.
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« Reply #52: March 06, 2008, 01:01:37 pm »

It's been so long since I've seen that movie, I don't even remember any crows.

It's the spot where Dumbo wakes up in a tree and learns he can fly. Wink Also where he got the "magic feather". Grin
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« Reply #53: March 06, 2008, 03:37:48 pm »

I dislike ABC because of this show.  They use pity to boost ratings and I find that to be utterly despicable.  If it wasn't for Jeopardy I would ignore that station all together.
I'm pretty sure Jeopardy is an NBC show.

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« Reply #54: March 06, 2008, 03:45:51 pm »

I'm pretty sure Jeopardy is an NBC show.

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not in the States.  it's on ABC here.
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« Reply #55: March 06, 2008, 03:52:09 pm »

I could swear that Randall has said the same thing before, too, that his parents never really felt inclined to interfere in what he read.
Neither did mine, and from what I can tell, that was more the norm when Randall's and my age group were kids - what concern parents had was mostly focused on the really-obviously age-inappropriate.  Mostly, the idea was that if the kid could understand it well enough to want to read it, s/he could understand it well enough to process it.  "My kid might learn something different from what I know" was the expression of a hope, not a fear.

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« Reply #56: March 06, 2008, 04:00:34 pm »

I could swear that Randall has said the same thing before, too, that his parents never really felt inclined to interfere in what he read.

All they did was try to limit the amount I read. For example, I was not allowed to live in the library nor would they take me there more than once a week. The there was a note in the librarian's files noting that my parents had said I could check out whatever I wanted no matter how "over my head" or age-inappropriate it appeared to be.
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« Reply #57: March 06, 2008, 04:35:10 pm »

not in the States.  it's on ABC here.
I think possibly it varies.  As far as the Canada/US thing goes, its Canadian network is CTV.  I can also watch it on KHQ, the Spokane NBC station, but not on KXLY, the Spokane ABC station (Calgary has always got its cable feeds of US stations from Spokane).

I had a dickens of a time trying to figure this out, and am still not completely clear.  I think what's up is that it's a syndicated show produced (from what I can tell - that's whose name is on Jeopardy's own website) by Sony, rather than a network product, and it's picked up by local stations regardless of affiliation.  According to TV.com (in material not about Jeopardy per se but about Super Jeopardy, a summer-replacement variant from about '90), ABC is/was its network of record, but that doesn't seem to have a hard-and-fast connection with what station it can be seen on in a given area.

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« Reply #58: March 06, 2008, 04:42:52 pm »

All they did was try to limit the amount I read. For example, I was not allowed to live in the library nor would they take me there more than once a week. The there was a note in the librarian's files noting that my parents had said I could check out whatever I wanted no matter how "over my head" or age-inappropriate it appeared to be.
<snicker>  My limitation was that I had to be able to carry them myself.  My parents were a bit horrified to discover just how many books I could fit between my fingertips and my chin (and maintain a grip on until we got out to the car).  But, yes, I could too read them all before the next library visit (three weeks, because that was the loan period).

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« Reply #59: March 06, 2008, 04:59:11 pm »

<snicker>  My limitation was that I had to be able to carry them myself.  My parents were a bit horrified to discover just how many books I could fit between my fingertips and my chin (and maintain a grip on until we got out to the car).  But, yes, I could too read them all before the next library visit (three weeks, because that was the loan period).

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it's amazing how many books fit in that stretch, isn't it? Cheesy  I had the same deal.

for a while my parents would buy me any books I could carry without basket, as long as I read them.  they quickly changed it to "with one hand" so they didn't go broke ... Cheesy
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