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« Topic Start: March 02, 2008, 12:53:05 pm »

I was just wondering what fiction books you've discovered that are either Pagan-themed or have some Pagan elements to them.  They seem (to me, at least) to be few and far between.  So I'm curious to see what anyone else has found.  Smiley

My personal favorites are:

"The Wild Wood" and "Greenmantle" by Charles de Lint

"The China Garden" by Liz Berry

and the "Circle of Three" series I read when I was in high school, by Isobel Bird.
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« Reply #1: March 02, 2008, 12:57:44 pm »

So I'm curious to see what anyone else has found.  Smiley

The Tir Alainn Trilogy by Anne Bishop is really good.

Annnnd....

I can't think of anything else at the moment. I'll post again later.
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« Reply #2: March 02, 2008, 01:12:05 pm »

I was just wondering what fiction books you've discovered that are either Pagan-themed or have some Pagan elements to them.  They seem (to me, at least) to be few and far between.  So I'm curious to see what anyone else has found.  Smiley

I am currently trying to finish Mordred: Bastard Son by Douglas Clegg.  I'm less than 100 pages from finishing and it's only now getting interesting.  The pagan theme is that Mordred and Morgan Le Fay both follow the Celtic Religion (which oddly enough resembles modern-day Wicca).  I will probably write a more in-depth review for The Cauldron when I get finished and have time.
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« Reply #3: March 02, 2008, 01:36:31 pm »

which oddly enough resembles modern-day Wicca

 Cheesy I also wonder if all the skyclad stuff in 'Mists of Avalon' are mainly a Wiccan influence, but I don't know much about Celtic history & mythology. It's a really well written and gripping epic, that is popular also with many non-Pagan folks. Well, Artus-legend is always popular I think...

Also Harry Potter has a mixture of Pagan elements without being intended as Pagan literature.

The Illiad and Odyssee are also Pagan fiction books.  Tongue (When will I find time to read them?  Angry )


Sorry, that's all I know. I'm interested in Pagan fiction books too, are the ones you all mentioned for adults or is it teen literature (not meaning that is necessarily bad)?
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« Reply #4: March 02, 2008, 01:55:32 pm »

Cheesy I also wonder if all the skyclad stuff in 'Mists of Avalon' are mainly a Wiccan influence, but I don't know much about Celtic history & mythology. It's a really well written and gripping epic, that is popular also with many non-Pagan folks. Well, Artus-legend is always popular I think...

Not much skyclad stuff in the one I'm reading.  It had mainly to do with them saying that "all goddesses are just a mask of one great goddess."  I don't know much about Celtic history and mythology either but from what I can tell by post made by Celtic Recons here I'd say the polytheism wasn't as soft (Morgause even said that the Greek Hekate was a mask).

Another wtf moment happened when one of the characters said that Arawn and Cernunnos were lovers.  That didn't make sense to me because with how much interests I have in researching LGBT characters in myth and folklore I would've probably came across it before.

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Also Harry Potter has a mixture of Pagan elements without being intended as Pagan literature.

I think the Pagan elements in the HP books were unintentional as well but not as obvious as some of the Christian ones.

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The Illiad and Odyssee are also Pagan fiction books.  Tongue (When will I find time to read them?  Angry )

You think that's bad?  I am supposed to be a reconish follower of the Greek gods and I fall asleep whenever I pick one of them up Embarrassed

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Sorry, that's all I know. I'm interested in Pagan fiction books too, are the ones you all mentioned for adults or is it teen literature (not meaning that is necessarily bad)?

The book I'm reading is not sexually explicit but the characters talk about sex a lot.  And some may be shocked on how dirty Merlin's mouth is.  So I'd say it's targeted towards adults.
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« Reply #5: March 02, 2008, 02:13:46 pm »

Mordred: Bastard Son[/i] by Douglas Clegg

Doug's fantastic. I recently finished the first two books of his Vampyricon trilogy.
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« Reply #6: March 02, 2008, 02:14:54 pm »

The book I'm reading is not sexually explicit but the characters talk about sex a lot.  And some may be shocked on how dirty Merlin's mouth is.  So I'd say it's targeted towards adults.

Doug writes adult fiction.
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« Reply #7: March 02, 2008, 02:17:42 pm »


I like the EarthSea series by Ursula K LeGuin.
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« Reply #8: March 02, 2008, 02:22:52 pm »

Doug's fantastic. I recently finished the first two books of his Vampyricon trilogy.

I have two of his other books on my "Too Read" shelf (the first vampire book and one of the haunted house books).  This is the first of his books that I read so I don't have anything to compare it to.  Since Mordred is the first book in a trilogy, I'm holding out hope that the other two will be more interesting.

Doug writes adult fiction.

Kinda figured that Wink  Although some adult fiction writers do write YA.  I thought Passionfruit wanted to know if you would recommend it for teens and I gave my reasons.
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« Reply #9: March 02, 2008, 02:27:20 pm »



The Mists of Avalon was influenced by modern Wicca, by way of Frazer -- Bradley talks about reading the entire 12-volume edition of The Golden Bough.  (Wicca is basically Frazer in action.)

It's not really appropriate to refer to the Iliad and Odyssey (or the Divine Comedy or Beowulf or Paradise Lost, etc.) as "fiction"; they're epic poems detailing the myths and legends of a particular culture.  ("Fiction" is properly applied to *prose* narratives telling a "made up" story.)  Sorry for the nitpick, but it's a pretty important literary distinction.  Smiley

For Pagan fiction, I like Mary Renault's stuff, and the YA series by Rick Riordan about Percy Jackson, son of Poseidon. 
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« Reply #10: March 02, 2008, 02:40:20 pm »

I thought Passionfruit wanted to know if you would recommend it for teens and I gave my reasons.
Um, no, I wanted to know if you would recommend it for and adult who doesn't mind a good teen book, but doesn't like too many only-teen-themes in it like angst, first love etc.
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« Reply #11: March 02, 2008, 02:59:24 pm »

It's not really appropriate to refer to the Iliad and Odyssey (or the Divine Comedy or Beowulf or Paradise Lost, etc.) as "fiction"; they're epic poems detailing the myths and legends of a particular culture.  ("Fiction" is properly applied to *prose* narratives telling a "made up" story.)  Sorry for the nitpick, but it's a pretty important literary distinction.  Smiley
That's why I was joking, but maybe I didn't use the appropriate smiley. ->  Tongue (Or just shouldn't have done it on a discussion forum, my bad.)

However I really didn't know fiction has to be prose, I thought it just meant 'made up'. If I wrote Star Trek in verses wouldn't it be fiction?

I don't mind your 'nitpick', it's good to close some education holes. (And I'm used to profs doing this, hope my questions don't annoy you.) Smiley
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« Reply #12: March 02, 2008, 03:31:40 pm »

Um, no, I wanted to know if you would recommend it for and adult who doesn't mind a good teen book, but doesn't like too many only-teen-themes in it like angst, first love etc.

Oh, my bad. Tongue

Now that I think about it the book I'm reading has the main character moping around because all of his friends are hooking up with someone else and he had to take a celibacy oath.

which reminds me of another Wiccanesque theme: it seems to follow Murry's matriarchal-witch-cult theory.  Apparently, women can learn magic at any time in their lives but males can only learn them if they're virgins.  Also the Great Goddess only likes males who are celibate/virgins.  I have no idea why that irked me when I read it Roll Eyes
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Now that I think about it the book I'm reading has the main character moping around because all of his friends are hooking up with someone else and he had to take a celibacy oath.
Roll Eyes Cheesy But then...if it gives me a good laugh I might enjoy it.  Wink
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« Reply #14: March 02, 2008, 04:00:50 pm »

If I wrote Star Trek in verses wouldn't it be fiction?
Bad example actually.

If I was a modern author (unlike Homer) and would invent a story about a mad scientist creating a time travel machine and his playful 11 year old daughter messing around with it and ending up in the middle age, but the story would all be in 12th century middle high German and verses, would you call it fiction? (I might call the girl Kriemhild or Brunhild...  Cheesy )

(Maybe I'm just mad or it's too late for a serious scientific discussion on my side of the planet, but this prose-thing really puzzles me.)
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