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« Reply #60: March 08, 2008, 04:41:28 pm »

Tamora Pierce's various Tortall books have quite a lot of Pagan elements.

Yes, one of my favorite authors Smiley

Hm. Perhaps I shall pick him up again. A Song For Arbonne sounds intriguing.

It's a very nice book, I really liked it. At the start it's a bit confusing with introducing people and then making a 20 year jump, but they have a cast of characters in the back - that helps *lol*

Speaking of The Dark Is Rising, I'm surprised they haven't been mentioned yet: those are pagan books if ever I saw them. And boy, are they goodSmiley

Yes! Ah at least some books and authors I know! *lol*
The Dark is rising influenced me good bit. Still a favorite.
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« Reply #61: March 08, 2008, 07:08:27 pm »


Has anyone yet mentioned the Chalion books (Curse of Chalion, Paladin of Souls and The Hallowed Hunt) by Lois McMaster Bujold? Fabulous books, lots of polytheistic cultures, theologies and theurgies.


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Also, one of the most genuinely Pagan books -- and one of the *weirdest* -- I've ever read is this awesomely bizarre 1970s German YA novel by Hannelore Valencak, When Half-Gods Go.  Young German girl, on vacation in Greece with her jerk boyfriend, meets up with Hermes.  As in, the actual god Hermes.  They also meet Dionysos, Apollo (who's a snobby bitch), Homer, and various nymphs.  German girl falls in love with Hermes, but she *doesn't* sleep with him (hello, 1970s gender politics); their big moment of intimacy is when she addresses him as "Du" (German familiar "you").  (Because the heroine had slept with jerk boyfriend, Apollo sneers at her for being a slut, the author replaying the old Apollo/Hermes cult rivalry, firmly on Hermes's side.)  I'm torn between loving the sheer romance of the premise, and hating the heroine for being an idiot.  Seriously, who would turn down *Hermes*?  But the wonder of it is that the gods are treated as *real*, powerful beings, who care about and interact with humans.  It's wacked out and unintentionally hilarious and weirdly moving all at the same time.
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« Reply #62: March 08, 2008, 09:22:21 pm »

Ditto  Cheesy

Has anyone yet mentioned the Chalion books (Curse of Chalion, Paladin of Souls and The Hallowed Hunt) by Lois McMaster Bujold? Fabulous books, lots of polytheistic cultures, theologies and theurgies.

How did I manage to forget them? Bah. They're some of my favorites. (She does eventually have plans for another one in that world, too.)

Also, I forgot Emma Bull's _War for the Oaks_
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« Reply #63: March 09, 2008, 03:24:23 am »

Ooh.  Fire Rose isn't listed with the Elemental Masters series, so I didn't know about it.

It was published years before the rest; it was the very first one.  I don't know if it's technically a part of the series (I saw Amazon didn't list it as such, which confused me), but if not it's only a technicality, IIRC.
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« Reply #64: March 09, 2008, 06:48:36 am »

Also, one of the most genuinely Pagan books -- and one of the *weirdest* -- I've ever read is this awesomely bizarre 1970s German YA novel by Hannelore Valencak, When Half-Gods Go.  Young German girl, on vacation in Greece with her jerk boyfriend, meets up with Hermes.  As in, the actual god Hermes.  They also meet Dionysos, Apollo (who's a snobby bitch), Homer, and various nymphs.  German girl falls in love with Hermes, but she *doesn't* sleep with him (hello, 1970s gender politics); their big moment of intimacy is when she addresses him as "Du" (German familiar "you").  (Because the heroine had slept with jerk boyfriend, Apollo sneers at her for being a slut, the author replaying the old Apollo/Hermes cult rivalry, firmly on Hermes's side.)  I'm torn between loving the sheer romance of the premise, and hating the heroine for being an idiot.  Seriously, who would turn down *Hermes*?  But the wonder of it is that the gods are treated as *real*, powerful beings, who care about and interact with humans.  It's wacked out and unintentionally hilarious and weirdly moving all at the same time.

That reminds me of Sherrilyn Kenyon's Fantasy Lover, where the heroine falls in love with a 2,000 year old pleasure slave named Julian of Macedon who is the half-mortal son of Aphrodite. So She and Eros and Psyche and...some other Greek God/desses, can't remember who, show up at various points in the story.

...yes, it is a romance. But a GOOD romance. Cheesy Like, with a plot and likable characters and stuff.
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« Reply #65: March 09, 2008, 06:40:33 pm »

It was published years before the rest; it was the very first one.  I don't know if it's technically a part of the series (I saw Amazon didn't list it as such, which confused me), but if not it's only a technicality, IIRC.

It's definitely set in the same universe. It's a lot better than the other ones IMO, possibly because it has less "stuff" in it. ML seems to do this thing where she tosses in whatever bits of research catch her fancy, and it all turns into a jumble. Anyway, the latest book in the series is apparently based on "puss in boots," I haven't read it. "The Wizard of London" was one of the jumble ones, and seems to be a cross between A Midsummer Night's Dream and The Snow Queen. Or something. "Firebird" was pretty good though.
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« Reply #66: March 15, 2008, 06:35:00 pm »

I was just wondering what fiction books you've discovered that are either Pagan-themed or have some Pagan elements to them.  They seem (to me, at least) to be few and far between.  So I'm curious to see what anyone else has found.  Smiley

Has anyone mentioned Terry Pratchett yet?  Great books, a good few with witches in, which include Magrat who has lots of expensive jewellry but is not really effective as a witch.

Don't bother to watch the Sky versions - they irritated the h**l out of me by telling everyone about the plot every fifteen minutes.  My boyfriend carried on watching it, but I went and read the phone manual as I had a problem to sort out and it was more interesting.
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« Reply #67: March 18, 2008, 05:35:00 pm »

"Dies the Fire" by SM Stirling.
I really enjoyed this book. It begins with the improbable premise that all the electricity in the world has suddenly stopped working, as well as combustion engines. Whether its aliens, a science experiment gone wrong, or the intentional intervention of the gods is never explained. Understandably, human society and culture as we know it collapses. One of its main protagonists is a Wiccan High Priestess who inadvertently converts a large portion of what used to Oregon into what is referred to as the Old Religion (well, the new Old Religion.)

The author isn't a pagan himself, but he researched and talked to a pagan, and although I'm no expert, everything he wrote sounded pretty well done.

I think its a pretty entertaining account of what a modern society with a neo-pagen state sponsored religion might be like.

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« Reply #68: March 18, 2008, 06:51:12 pm »

"Dies the Fire" by SM Stirling.
I really enjoyed this book. It begins with the improbable premise that all the electricity in the world has suddenly stopped working, as well as combustion engines. Whether its aliens, a science experiment gone wrong, or the intentional intervention of the gods is never explained. Understandably, human society and culture as we know it collapses.

I haven't read this, but I've read the series which, I think, involves the other side of the "event," in which the entire island of Nantucket is transported to the year 1000 BCE. Stirling is a pretty good writer, so I can imagine I could enjoy the above series (if I could ignore the blatant violation of the laws of physics. If the electromagnetic force really did change its nature, the collapse of civilization would be the least of our worries.)

Anyway, check out "Island in the Sea of Time" and its sequels, they're fun. They include the builders of Stonehenge, Babylonian philosophers, the Olmecs (or somebody  Huh), and the original Odysseus.
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« Reply #69: March 18, 2008, 07:11:55 pm »

I haven't read this, but I've read the series which, I think, involves the other side of the "event," in which the entire island of Nantucket is transported to the year 1000 BCE. Stirling is a pretty good writer, so I can imagine I could enjoy the above series (if I could ignore the blatant violation of the laws of physics. If the electromagnetic force really did change its nature, the collapse of civilization would be the least of our worries.)

Anyway, check out "Island in the Sea of Time" and its sequels, they're fun. They include the builders of Stonehenge, Babylonian philosophers, the Olmecs (or somebody  Huh), and the original Odysseus.

Please do ignore the blatant violation of the laws of physics. Stirling as much as admits, through the bafflement of his characters, that something absolutely impossible has happened.

I have just begun Island and I am enjoying it.
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« Reply #70: March 18, 2008, 07:31:57 pm »

Please do ignore the blatant violation of the laws of physics. Stirling as much as admits, through the bafflement of his characters, that something absolutely impossible has happened.

I have just begun Island and I am enjoying it.

I'll probably pick it up sometime. Military SF isn't usually my thing, but I'll read it if it's decent.

BTW, have you read "There Will Be Dragons" and its sequels? (by John Ringo, I believe.) Involving the collapse of a very futuristic society to a medieval level, leaving behind genetically engineered elves and Dragons, AI "demons", and "magic" via the still available technology. I found it highly entertaining.
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« Reply #71: April 12, 2008, 12:12:36 pm »

I was just wondering what fiction books you've discovered that are either Pagan-themed or have some Pagan elements to them.  They seem (to me, at least) to be few and far between.  So I'm curious to see what anyone else has found.  Smiley
One of the most arresting for me was To See a Witch by Lynne Gessner.
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« Reply #72: April 20, 2008, 03:00:24 am »

Also, I forgot Emma Bull's _War for the Oaks_

Ooh, I like this one. Another good one that's vaguely similar is Terri Windling's The Wood Wife.

For people who like tarot and Jungian archetypes with their gods, read Tim Powers' Last Call. This is absolutely my favorite book; it's fantastic and very well-written and ties together a lot of concepts you wouldn't think would mesh well.

Um...an author I didn't like was Morgan Llywellyn, writing historical fiction about druids. The Greener Shore was particularly plotless and preachy, though YMMV depending on how slow you like your books. (I like them slow, but not that slow.)
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« Reply #73: July 09, 2008, 03:33:14 pm »

I was just wondering what fiction books you've discovered that are either Pagan-themed or have some Pagan elements to them.  They seem (to me, at least) to be few and far between.  So I'm curious to see what anyone else has found.  Smiley

My personal favorites are:

"The Wild Wood" and "Greenmantle" by Charles de Lint

"The China Garden" by Liz Berry

and the "Circle of Three" series I read when I was in high school, by Isobel Bird.
Let's see, (running to grab her favroite author lists) there is P.C. Cast her Perthenon series and House of night. I read the first book in the HON series and was thrilled that the vampires were having full moon rituals.
 Cheyenne McCray has a Magic series, Forbidden Magic, Seduced by Magic, Wicked Magic, and Shadow Magic.
 Mindy Klasky~Witchcraft series
 Cate Tiernan~Sweep and Balefire~YA
 SRW~Witch's Night of Fear, Witch's Key to Terror, Witch's Night Out (sorry to mention her)~YA
 Laurie Faria Stolarz~Blue is for Nightmares series~YA
 Shirley Damsgaard~Witch mystery series
 Madelyn Alt~Witch mystery series
 Yasmine Galenorn~I think everything she writes is Pagan.
 Kelly McClymer~Salem Witch Tryouts, Competition's a Witch, She's a Witch Girl (unrealistic magic)~YA
 Lynne Ewing ~Daughter's of the Moon and Sisters of Isis(she mainly has the characters interacting with deities)~YA
 L.J Smith~The Secret Circle Trilogy~YA
 
 Those are the only ones that come to mind.
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« Reply #74: July 24, 2008, 09:09:31 pm »

Shirley Damsgaard~Witch mystery series
 Madelyn Alt~Witch mystery series

I highly recommend both series. I've read all the books. Shirley primarily discusses folk magic, while Madelyn's stuff is Wicca-based. Neither is 100% accurate, but the small liberties they take for the sake of an entertaining plot are reasonable, and don't make me want to throw the book across the room. Though Madelyn's unresolved love triangle just might!!

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