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« Topic Start: March 25, 2008, 06:22:16 am »

On vacation last year, I paid a brief visit to the Hopi Indian reservation in Arizona. While there, I saw an intriguing reference in a museum to a Hopi legend about the coming of the "white man"—which was one of the reasons they initially welcomed Europeans, until it became apparent that we were not the fulfillment of the legend. I asked a couple of people while I was there, but I couldn't get a simple answer as to the origin of this legend. Would someone be able to point me in the right direction for more information?
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« Reply #1: March 25, 2008, 02:39:19 pm »

The Book Of The Hopi, by Frank Waters. This was very informative, Mr Waters sat with Tribe elders to document their beleifs and rituals so they would not be lost forever.
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« Reply #2: March 25, 2008, 05:28:40 pm »

The Book Of The Hopi, by Frank Waters.

This book is not really considered 'truthful' by the Hopi themselves.  If you read this thread at NAFPS there is a brief mention of this book possibly being the source of some misinformation later expanded on by charlatons:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=8418251902b5f63f24a2110d02029039&topic=130.0

There are a couple of better sources mentioned in the thread as well, and you will get some idea of the type of deliberate changes and additions 'researchers' tend to make to the legends to sell more books.

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« Reply #3: March 25, 2008, 05:48:00 pm »

This book is not really considered 'truthful' by the Hopi themselves.  If you read this thread at NAFPS there is a brief mention of this book possibly being the source of some misinformation later expanded on by charlatons:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=8418251902b5f63f24a2110d02029039&topic=130.0

There are a couple of better sources mentioned in the thread as well, and you will get some idea of the type of deliberate changes and additions 'researchers' tend to make to the legends to sell more books.

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Add to this that the book is overwhelmingly, mind-numbingly boring.  Smiley

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« Reply #4: March 25, 2008, 08:18:54 pm »

On vacation last year, I paid a brief visit to the Hopi Indian reservation in Arizona. While there, I saw an intriguing reference in a museum to a Hopi legend about the coming of the "white man"—which was one of the reasons they initially welcomed Europeans, until it became apparent that we were not the fulfillment of the legend. I asked a couple of people while I was there, but I couldn't get a simple answer as to the origin of this legend. Would someone be able to point me in the right direction for more information?

I was watching part of a documentary on either the Aztec or Mayan cultures (I think it was the latter)  sometime in the last week or two and heard something strikingly similar about their god, who promised one day to return.  Apparently they initially mistook the conquistadors as being representatives of him since they were white, or something similar.  Talk about a bummer of a mistake... Lips sealed

Maybe there is a correlation?

EDIT:  Knew I heard this, check out this link.  Apparently it's more Aztec than Maya but there is some overlap:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatl

scroll down to "Moctezuma controversy" and the idea that the king thought that Hernán Cortés was the god.
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« Reply #5: March 25, 2008, 10:30:29 pm »

EDIT:  Knew I heard this, check out this link.  Apparently it's more Aztec than Maya but there is some overlap:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatl

scroll down to "Moctezuma controversy" and the idea that the king thought that Hernán Cortés was the god.

I really wish you would have posted this edit as a separate message. Many people might have read the original message in the hour or so between when you posted it and when you made the edit. And they would never know you had edited it. This is why the rules say no edits (other than for typos and the like) after more than a few minutes have passed.
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