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« Topic Start: March 28, 2008, 07:59:48 pm »

 Please school me, people. I live in a shack by the Pacific Ocean and don't get out much. I have really only been exposed to pagan thought and practice that considers connecting to Earth as the Divine Mother and protecting the earth as a sacred right and responsibility. It was interesting to read Mari's post over on the failure of paganism in the ancient world thread about how her particular religion thinks of this. Others? What are you all up to?
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« Reply #1: March 28, 2008, 08:16:25 pm »

Please school me, people. I live in a shack by the Pacific Ocean and don't get out much. I have really only been exposed to pagan thought and practice that considers connecting to Earth as the Divine Mother and protecting the earth as a sacred right and responsibility. It was interesting to read Mari's post over on the failure of paganism in the ancient world thread about how her particular religion thinks of this. Others? What are you all up to?
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well, FlameKeeping is definitely NOT earth-based.  The universe as a whole is God/The Divine, but the earth is .. y'know, where we live.  it's a nice place, and it's important because we live here and it's a pretty dumb idea to foul your own habitat, but I don't believe the earth is any more /sacred/ than, say, Mars.  I just don't LIVE on Mars.  I live here.
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« Reply #2: March 28, 2008, 08:38:10 pm »

Please school me, people. I live in a shack by the Pacific Ocean and don't get out much. I have really only been exposed to pagan thought and practice that considers connecting to Earth as the Divine Mother and protecting the earth as a sacred right and responsibility. It was interesting to read Mari's post over on the failure of paganism in the ancient world thread about how her particular religion thinks of this. Others? What are you all up to?

I sort of agree with Shad on this one.

Mine is not so much Earth-Based.  Sure, there are gods and spirits of various parts of nature but they are not really the focus of my personal path.  I tend to think of the divine as more cosmic than earthly.
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« Reply #3: March 28, 2008, 09:22:39 pm »

I sort of agree with Shad on this one.

Mine is not so much Earth-Based.  Sure, there are gods and spirits of various parts of nature but they are not really the focus of my personal path.  I tend to think of the divine as more cosmic than earthly.

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« Reply #4: March 28, 2008, 09:26:10 pm »

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« Reply #5: March 28, 2008, 09:29:40 pm »


Let's see.

None of the reconstructions.  I'd have my doubts about the stuff derived from magical societies, too, but that's well outside of my frame of expertise.
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« Reply #6: March 28, 2008, 09:29:58 pm »

links?

Sorry, but I don't have any.  My path is unique to me and I don't have the time or funds to build my own website dedicated to it.
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« Reply #7: March 28, 2008, 10:08:20 pm »



Greek Reconstructionism wouldn't be considered earth-based.
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« Reply #8: March 28, 2008, 10:18:59 pm »

Greek Reconstructionism wouldn't be considered earth-based.

I don't know that one could call Celtic Reconstructionism or Celtic Revivalism to be earth-based, at least not in the sense that I think is most often meant when the reference is made.
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« Reply #9: March 28, 2008, 10:22:55 pm »

Please school me, people. I live in a shack by the Pacific Ocean and don't get out much. I have really only been exposed to pagan thought and practice that considers connecting to Earth as the Divine Mother and protecting the earth as a sacred right and responsibility.

You might want to read these two threads over on our old DelphiForum (warning: ads, ads, and more ads)

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Both touch on the fact that not all Pagan religions are "Earth Centered" -- and that some don't like being crammed into the "Earth Centered" hole at all. Wink
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« Reply #10: March 28, 2008, 10:30:54 pm »

I don't know that one could call Celtic Reconstructionism or Celtic Revivalism to be earth-based, at least not in the sense that I think is most often meant when the reference is made.

I don't know enough about it to say. I do know that the problem I've run into with people who are pushing the earth-based title is they end up making their definition so broad it encompasses every religion on earth.
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« Reply #11: March 28, 2008, 10:35:58 pm »

I don't know that one could call Celtic Reconstructionism or Celtic Revivalism to be earth-based, at least not in the sense that I think is most often meant when the reference is made.

I think I'd agree: I think that while CRs care for the earth very deeply, and seek good relations with the land spirits, it's not "earth-based." It's more like... being good neighbors.
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« Reply #12: March 28, 2008, 11:18:24 pm »


My beliefs definitely are not earth-centered. I believe the earth is sacred, yes. I also believe that the things and people ON the earth are sacred.

I don't believe that the earth is any more sacred than other things...and I certainly do not worship the earth.

I'm also not adverse to "unnatural" things, though I prefer materials like wood and metal for my ritual tools. I find they're more conductive than oh, say, plastic. Wink
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« Reply #13: March 29, 2008, 12:41:35 am »

Please school me, people. I live in a shack by the Pacific Ocean and don't get out much. I have really only been exposed to pagan thought and practice that considers connecting to Earth as the Divine Mother and protecting the earth as a sacred right and responsibility. It was interesting to read Mari's post over on the failure of paganism in the ancient world thread about how her particular religion thinks of this. Others? What are you all up to?
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BTW isn't earth-based either, except that Earth is where we all live, and since we're stuck here for the time being, it behooves us to keep it in good condition.  ALL Creation is sacred, so Earth isn't any more or less sacred than the individual things upon it or the other things we see from the surface.

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« Reply #14: March 29, 2008, 01:38:28 am »

I have really only been exposed to pagan thought and practice that considers connecting to Earth as the Divine Mother and protecting the earth as a sacred right and responsibility.
Well, if that's the definition for "earth-based", only a small fraction of Pagandom fits.  I sure don't.

On the other hand, that'd leave me saying, "My path isn't earth-based, it's chthonic," which would be kinda silly.  It deals in birth and death, sex and fertility, and such - even the Otherworlds I know are places in an inherent relationship with the World of Form (the non-physical, unseen-to-most aspects of the fabric in which humans exist).  Any "protecting the earth" I do isn't because it's a divine mother, it's because you don't shit where you live.

I have other remarks I could make related to this, but they deal with the history of terms like "earth-centred" and "nature-based" in neoPaganism, and belong more in Altair's thread (in fact, they may be my elusive "in a nutshell").  So back I go....

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