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Author Topic: Rubbing hands and feeling energy - really magick?  (Read 16411 times)
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« Reply #30: April 10, 2008, 02:10:19 am »

I've always thought it as a specific Eastern system of internal Qi exercises not a more generic word for energy exercises.  That's why I found the idea of Falun Gong interesting.  A streamlined system with all the same benefits?  Sounds great.
Well, it also depends on how you define system. If you compare it to yoga you might say that those are different systems like if you compare music of the West to African one. But it's not a system in the meaning that all the exercises would be connected to each other as in having an elaborated system of different folders/subjects  supporting or complete each other with defined grades. Like Mozart and heavy metal aren't really different school grades of music of the West. (Jenett, correct me if I'm wrong.) Music of the West isn't a system you could streamline. Note you'll also have examples of music where you would have problems to put it in a definite folder.

The practice of qi gong is very variable in China and related regions. Some of it in various religious backrounds like buddhism or daoism, some in monasteries, some in martial arts schools, some of it just for health reasons in the morning like morning gym.

You can make a system out of qi gong exercises though, like you could set up a music school which teaches specific styles in specific grades or specializes on one style and teaches specific pieces in specific grades.
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« Reply #31: April 10, 2008, 11:19:11 am »

But wouldn't you percieve a defined boundary when you cast a circle? I just walk in a circle, but it's not really closed to what is going around. Maybe I'm not concentrating enough.

I had a fencing instructor back in college who was also a Reiki teacher.  She was explaining at one point that strong teachers would be able to fill a gym with their auric field just by the fact that they were attuning to the reiki flow of energy.  Perhaps you're doing something similar?  Focusing on the qi flow, pulling more into your space, will have the effect of pushing your auric field further out unless you focus on not doing so.  At least that's how I've experienced it.

Another thought, perhaps whatever you're doing, whether it's simply expanding your auric field or casting a spontaneous circle by dint of the excercise you're practicing, is unconsciously using the walls of your gym as the boundary.  If someone opens the door with the intent of being able to pass through and then leaves it open, well, that will have created a doorway through your energetic boundary, too.  It would certainly leave me uncomfortable.
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« Reply #32: April 10, 2008, 11:21:36 am »

Well, it also depends on how you define system.

Yeah, I think it's just a matter of personal definitions based upon a lack of accurate information.  As you describe it the practice certainly seems more general than I had realized.
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« Reply #33: April 10, 2008, 03:01:33 pm »

It sounds like energy work to me. My friends and I like to *ping* energy at each other in a similar manner.
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« Reply #34: April 11, 2008, 10:08:23 am »

o repel. Both hands (separately and together) seemed to 'vibrate' the cover (move it back and forth).

What I would like to know, is this really a form of (I am assuming very weak) magick, or is this something that could currently be explained by science?

Thank you for your replies.

Take the hand rubbing out of it.  Really fast hand rubbing is just playing with friction.  Really fast hand rubbing is annoying because you end up feeling heat rather than energy.

Hold your hands as if there were a ball of dough between them.  move your hands NOT TOUCHING as if you were rolling that dough ball to be more round.  Then shake out your hands as if you were shaking off ants, loose hands.  Then roll the imaginary dough ball again.  Shake again.

Repeat a couple times and then hold your hands about an inch apart (as if you were rolling the dough ball) only hold them still.

It may take a little more attention, but you should still notice the same energy.
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« Reply #35: April 17, 2008, 12:37:08 am »

Not really on the same subject: I once had a friend's girlfriend read my future with some card divination. The funny thing is that the cards were just toys from a cartoon show (Card Captors.) Anyway, the reading was all right, nothing special, but the crazy part was that as she held my hand in order to focus, I felt a strong feeling of energy being pulled from my arm into hers. It didn't feel electrical at all though and lasted the entire time she held my hand unlike any static energy discharge I have ever felt. It just felt like Power, with a capital P was being drawn out my hand. As soon as she let go of my hand she told me I felt very powerful and that she had felt it coming out of my body. It was like nothing she had ever felt either. This was the very first time I ever met her.

Its one of those moments that makes me believe in magic.
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