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Author Topic: Which Pagan religions are NOT nature-earth based?  (Read 20199 times)
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« Reply #8: May 01, 2008, 01:48:44 pm »

On the other hand, the natural world *is* a major principle of Wicca in all its forms; the gods are explicitly connected with nature and the natural cycle (Wheel of the Year), and it forms a major organizing principle of the religion.

To clarify my earlier comments, I was thinking of BTW as more fertility-centered than earth-centered--related but not the same.  I have the feeling I should probably just keep my big mouth closed on the subject now, because I think I may be out of my depth.  BTW is one of those things that I think I feel like I know more than I actually do about, and I probably shouldn't have spoken up.  Sorry.

One problem that I've seen in places where non-nature-based Recons and Recon-influenced types are dominant is the equation of "nature-based" with "fluffy":  I have seen many snorts of "I worship the GODS, not NATURE!11!"  Which completely misses the point of what "nature-based" means:  the gods in nature-based religions are *about* nature (and sometimes, not always, nature itself), and everything in the religion is intimately connected to nature.       

In the interest of full disclosure, my comments here are based pretty much solely on my experience here at notably-non-nature-based-dominated TC.  I recognize that they may not apply on a broader scale; I'm speaking solely from my own experience and the limited perspective that affords.

That said, what I've noticed here is that after a while, the reaction to the whole "earth-based" idea starts to perhaps look like what you're describing, but isn't necessarily.  I think the strong "NO I'M NOT!!!!" reaction is born more of frustration with having to continually deal with people insisting that all Pagans are earth-centered and getting sick and tired of it.  I suspect what is considered fluffy (again, at least here) is that insistence rather than earth-centered practice itself, but I also think that can be difficult to discern in the reactions that the whole "Paganism=earth-centered" issue provokes.

(I'd also note that in this case, the OP did specifically say nature worshipping in addition to Earth centered, so I think there's some validity in this specific case to reacting with an "I don't worship nature" statement.)

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