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« Reply #30: January 07, 2009, 12:28:19 am »

I was going to ask this question myself.  Many forum's members and staff have issues with double posting.  I just want to make sure for others and possibly myself, that double posters won't receive complaints.
 

If the subjects are very close and go up at the same time we might merge the threads, but a different take on the same subject, or a new angle on an old thread is fine.

I would be glad to help out myself.  Even though I only have a few posts at the moment and that's not much to go on with giving me a position.  I'm sure I would have no trouble finding questions.  I'm still quite new to the beliefs discussed in this site and I think of things I don't know and have to go and figure out all the time.  I'd be happy to start question threads and such.  I love a sounding board for things I'm curious about and I'm sure other members will as well.  Expect my PM Cheesy

Anybody can start threads, a 'position' isn't a requirement.  Threadstarters have their own folder where they can discuss difficult or touchy subjects and how best to phrase things.  They can also do trial runs or offer topics they don't have time to attend to properly themselves.  I'll explain more when I get your pm.

Edit: oh oh, I also wanted to suggest that you have "tryouts" or at least test possible topic starters.  Just in case myself or others have content that is too bland or doesn't fit what you are looking for (there's my self esteem thingiemabobber).

We don't really judge content, or have subjects we emphasize or discourage - it's up to the members what they choose to respond to.  Anybody can start any subject - threadstarters are just expected to raise subjects for discussion that people might be interested in but not start themselves.

Anyway, we can talk in PM.  Cheesy

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« Reply #31: January 07, 2009, 08:32:41 am »

I was going to ask this question myself.  Many forum's members and staff have issues with double posting.  I just want to make sure for others and possibly myself, that double posters won't receive complaints.

Depends on what you mean by "double posting."  Most boards complain about two or more posts by the same person in a row on the same thread. We, on the other hand prefer one post per reply, even if that means you have three or four posts in a row. If, however, you mean starting the same topic in several different boards so that more people will see it (or whatever), we do not allow that.
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« Reply #32: January 07, 2009, 10:20:26 am »

Anybody can start threads, a 'position' isn't a requirement.  Threadstarters have their own folder where they can discuss difficult or touchy subjects and how best to phrase things.  They can also do trial runs or offer topics they don't have time to attend to properly themselves.  I'll explain more when I get your pm.

Right on, initially was thinking that more rights would be required in order to post threads.  This forum functions quite differently than others, I wasn't even sure I was able to post threads yet.   I was assuming I required a 'position' or your full membership status.  Anyways, yea I can and will post new threads without 'position' erm at least in the areas I have the privilage of  Tongue.  However, I think that more activity in all areas, not just the few you specified would liven up the forum.  I used to moderate a graphic arts forum and I noticed that was a part of activity flow.

We don't really judge content, or have subjects we emphasize or discourage - it's up to the members what they choose to respond to.  Anybody can start any subject - threadstarters are just expected to raise subjects for discussion that people might be interested in but not start themselves.

Back on the graphics forum I was speaking of, there was an activity requirement for the staff.  A little different but you were talking about a weekly thread requirement.  The problem was, some of our staff would post useless threads.  We had a difficult time managing the slag, it was a mere suggestion. Smiley

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Depends on what you mean by "double posting."  Most boards complain about two or more posts by the same person in a row on the same thread. We, on the other hand prefer one post per reply, even if that means you have three or four posts in a row. If, however, you mean starting the same topic in several different boards so that more people will see it (or whatever), we do not allow that.

I was referring to double thread posting in the sense of posting a thread that was once posted before.  I'm not talking about a person posting the same thread in multiple forums, that is obvious spam.  From my experience thread revival has been the status quo over a rebirth thread.
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« Reply #33: January 07, 2009, 10:30:25 am »

I was referring to double thread posting in the sense of posting a thread that was once posted before.  I'm not talking about a person posting the same thread in multiple forums, that is obvious spam.  From my experience thread revival has been the status quo over a rebirth thread.

Heh.  TC has been around for...  what, eleven years now?  Even if you just count our time on this specific software (given that of course threads from previous incarnations wouldn't be easily accessible), that's still almost three years of posts on a relatively busy forum.  We don't expect people to slog through all that to see if the topic they want to discuss has ever ever ever been done before.  A look through recent threads to make sure you're not duplicating anything we're currently discussing or that has only just died out is nice, of course, but I'm not sure it would be reasonable for us to ask more than that.

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« Reply #34: January 07, 2009, 10:36:56 am »

that's still almost three years of posts on a relatively busy forum. 

Two years.  It seems I can't do simple math this morning, sorry.  Still, that's a lot of threads.
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« Reply #35: January 07, 2009, 10:37:30 am »

Two years.  It seems I can't do simple math this morning, sorry.  Still, that's a lot of threads.

you scared me there for a minute. Cheesy
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« Reply #36: January 07, 2009, 10:52:47 am »

We don't expect people to slog through all that to see if the topic they want to discuss has ever ever ever been done before. 

That was my point exactly.  I am a member of another forum with 100,000+ members (many inactive at this point because of their long history).  From what I understand they have their whole history accessible.  You could enter an entire sentence in their search and find it verbatim 50 times... and you would still get in trouble for not bothering to search the 100 pages of it.

(PS--Just a gentle nudge--I'm not sure if you got from Randall's comment that we would like you to reply to each post separately rather than combining replies like this.  Makes it easier for those of us easily confused to follow the conversation.  Wink  Plus, it makes it easier to keep those link-backs intact--they're really just as important as the quote itself.)

haha sorry again.  Like I said this forum operates QUITE differently than I'm used to.  I'm used to separate posts being merged or deleted.  I got the quoting thing down, I'll get the hang of the rest I promise.
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« Reply #37: January 07, 2009, 12:50:47 pm »

Two years.  It seems I can't do simple math this morning, sorry.  Still, that's a lot of threads.

Wow, I can't believe it's been two already.
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« Reply #38: January 07, 2009, 02:13:49 pm »

Wow, I can't believe it's been two already.

Its not. its 37 days 2 hours and 18 minuites. The rest of the time you dont really exist.
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« Reply #39: January 07, 2009, 02:16:32 pm »

Right on, initially was thinking that more rights would be required in order to post threads.

Regular members are limited in what boards they can post in. Full Membership lets you post almost anywhere. Full Membership requirements are a post in our Rules area

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However, I think that more activity in all areas, not just the few you specified would liven up the forum.  I used to moderate a graphic arts forum and I noticed that was a part of activity flow.

We limit the areas new members can post to because without that limit spammers and fluffs would have immediate access to the entire forum. The hosts would go mad and shut the forum down -- moving to a Regular member/Full member split a few years ago is what kept the forum open. One of the Hosts had simply got tired of having to put up with troublesome people everywhere.

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Back on the graphics forum I was speaking of, there was an activity requirement for the staff.  A little different but you were talking about a weekly thread requirement.  The problem was, some of our staff would post useless threads.  We had a difficult time managing the slag, it was a mere suggestion. Smiley

We haven't had such a problem, probably because we don't have such requirements for staff. I've been running online message areas of some type (BBS boards, Fidonet echoes, a GEnie Roudtable, etc.) since the mid-1980s and long ago developed a style of running such areas -- a style that is somewhat different from that developed by those who started with an Internet forum.  Our differences confuse some (and really annoy some), but the system works well for us. Considering this forum has been around (on different servers and software) since December 1997, it seems to work. Grin
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« Reply #40: January 07, 2009, 07:52:44 pm »

Regular members are limited in what boards they can post in. Full Membership lets you post almost anywhere. Full Membership requirements are a post in our Rules area

We limit the areas new members can post to because without that limit spammers and fluffs would have immediate access to the entire forum. The hosts would go mad and shut the forum down -- moving to a Regular member/Full member split a few years ago is what kept the forum open. One of the Hosts had simply got tired of having to put up with troublesome people everywhere.

We haven't had such a problem, probably because we don't have such requirements for staff. I've been running online message areas of some type (BBS boards, Fidonet echoes, a GEnie Roudtable, etc.) since the mid-1980s and long ago developed a style of running such areas -- a style that is somewhat different from that developed by those who started with an Internet forum.  Our differences confuse some (and really annoy some), but the system works well for us. Considering this forum has been around (on different servers and software) since December 1997, it seems to work. Grin


Sorry.  I didn't mean to come off as saying what's what on your forum.  I saw a thread requesting help with activity and I wanted to do my best to do just that.  I still want to help but I think we got off on the wrong foot so I'm going to shut up now.
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« Reply #41: January 07, 2009, 10:05:32 pm »

Sorry.  I didn't mean to come off as saying what's what on your forum.

I did not take it that way. I know we run TC much differently than most boards currently on the net. I was just trying to explain that we know this and see no reason to conform when the way we do things has worked well for us for years.

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I saw a thread requesting help with activity and I wanted to do my best to do just that.  I still want to help but I think we got off on the wrong foot so I'm going to shut up now.

Actually, Threadstarters aren't so much to help with an activity problem as to help with a thread idea problem. After years of doing this, the hosts and regular staff are less able to think of "new" thread subjects because we have seen so much and started so many that we just don't have great thread ideas any more.  Threadstarters are a way of giving people good at thinking up such ideas and official position for doing so regularly. Sure, such threads help generate activity, but that's secondary.
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« Reply #42: January 31, 2010, 01:13:22 am »


I can start threads... LMK if I can be useful!!
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