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« Reply #15: March 03, 2007, 11:43:19 am »

I pray for a lot of the reasons already mentioned. It is a time for me to focus on spirit. something that for me gets lost in the daily chaos that comes with young children.

I have never prayed for material things. When I pray it is usually in request for courage or clarity or healing for myself or others, etc.

I sometimes physically kneel, but usually I am kneeling in me thoughts (if that makes sense). I ask my Patron to hear me and shed some light. Usually its a one way conversation, replies are seen in manifestations or signs or answers to questions that I didn't have before.

I rescently made some prayer beads . They are  fashioned after a catholic rosary because it seemed the most versitile to me, but I would like to create my own system of prayer with it. I'm still trying to work that out but just holding it is comforting.

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« Reply #16: March 03, 2007, 12:11:38 pm »

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I rescently made some prayer beads . They are  fashioned after a catholic rosary because it seemed the most versitile to me, but I would like to create my own system of prayer with it. I'm still trying to work that out but just holding it is comforting.

I have some beautiful moss agate prayer beads that I made. It was my first successful attempt at blending Celtic and Roman styles. Smiley
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« Reply #17: March 03, 2007, 12:20:09 pm »

I guess for me it is more of a I refuse to pray for something because I see praying as a request "me me me" thing.  Not sure if that sounds right, or is understandable but........   SELFISH....

Yeah, I know what you mean.  I'm fairly certain that some of my own prayers have sounded exactly like a toddler having a crying fit to the deities in question. No one does selfish like an unhappy baby.  

Now that I think of it, I think the difference for me between prayer and other sorts of communication with deities has to do with the role I assume.  There are only two deities that I actually pray to (the transcendent part of the Divine and a goddess whose name I'm still not sure of) but the common feature is that they're both deities that I have a great deal of trust in.  I'm willing to let go of the reins and let them be in control; there's a large degree of faith and giving up of my own will involved in this kind of prayer.  I think that taking on this child-like role balance out the essential selfishness of praying for help.  

Before I start sounding too pious, I should add that this does not come easily for me.  My natural inclination is to be a pigheaded control-freak.  So I guess that while my prayers may be selfish, the act of praying helps me be less of a self-absorbed twit.

I think I need to refine the language I use to describe prayer, because I just realized that even though I only pray "full-on" to two deities, I also use a "prayerful" attitude in other aspects of my religious and spiritual life.  Aaaah, I'm starting to babble. I'm going to have to think about this a bit more.

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« Reply #18: March 03, 2007, 12:22:47 pm »

Why is it that you pray?  Do you?  If so, to who/Who and why?  How?

What is the point of prayer in your religion?

I think I'd have to ask you to define "pray", really. Does pray mean pausing and asking for something or giving thanks, or the running communication in one's head that some of the godbothered have, or something else entirely? I've never considered myself the praying sort, but I "talk" to my gods all the time. (Of course, I'm also 'working' on a prayer bead project, because I'd like to be more of the praying sort.)
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« Reply #19: March 03, 2007, 12:39:20 pm »

I think I'd have to ask you to define "pray", really. Does pray mean pausing and asking for something or giving thanks, or the running communication in one's head that some of the godbothered have, or something else entirely? I've never considered myself the praying sort, but I "talk" to my gods all the time. (Of course, I'm also 'working' on a prayer bead project, because I'd like to be more of the praying sort.)

I don't think the running conversation is really *prayer* .. that's just chatter.  happens to be with a god, but it's still just chatter.

I think it's .. *meaningful conversation* with a God.  (which can be the running conversation, but it depends on the conversation).
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« Reply #20: March 03, 2007, 12:53:36 pm »

I don't think the running conversation is really *prayer* .. that's just chatter.  happens to be with a god, but it's still just chatter.

I think it's .. *meaningful conversation* with a God.  (which can be the running conversation, but it depends on the conversation).

Meaningful conversation...well, then I suppose I pray very irregularly, to a handful of gods (I work closest with Brigid and the Morrigan lately). I'm not sure how important prayer is to my path yet, but it's something to think about. Why do I pray, though? I'm not entirely sure. I guess to let them know that I appreciate their involvement in my life and their general presence, and that I'm thankful for the blessings I've been given, as well as the hardships (since that all promotes growth, etc).
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« Reply #21: March 04, 2007, 06:32:30 pm »

Why is it that you pray?  Do you?  If so, to who/Who and why?  How?

What is the point of prayer in your religion?

Hmm... I'll admit that most of my words upwards tend to be of the "Please help me..." or "Please give me..." sort, and only occasionally are they of the "Thank you!" sort, and very rarely of the "Hi! I'm still here, and I love you!" sort.  Prayer, at least, my own prayer practice, is a little like the teenager who only phones when they 1) need money and 2) need to ask you where you want the car towed.  Tongue

But seriously, prayer is how I connect to my deities, and it is also how they connect to me.
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« Reply #22: March 07, 2007, 08:22:14 pm »

What is the point of prayer in your religion?

I pray. Because I am desperate.  Wink

LOL, I pray as a way to open up communication. I try to get Her attention. She sometimes talks back but more often sends signs or dreams.

But really, I pray because it's a way to open up the dialog. Humans talk. I am a human. Therefore, I talk. It helps.

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« Reply #23: April 01, 2007, 10:18:50 am »

I wish Koi was here, I think she'd have a lot to contribute to this seeing as she specialized in liturgy.

I divide prayer into three main categories: prayers for my own peace of mind, prayers to just say "You're awesome!", and prayers to ask for goodies.

The common factor for all three is that I feel some sort of need, so I guess that's why I pray -- because I feel the need to, whether it's the need for something to benefit myself or the need to adore a higher power.

I don't believe that the Divine in any way requires or (currently) demands my prayer.
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