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« Topic Start: August 14, 2008, 09:54:50 am »

Life lately has been stressy and jam-packed, and I've felt like there's never enough time to do everything that needs done and the house is always dirty and yada yada yada.  I remember FlyLady being helpful with this years ago, but I also remember (and confirmed, upon visiting the site again) that she's...  well, really really annoying in a lot of ways.  Am I recalling correctly that there are FlyLady alternatives out there, where people have taken the basic principles and made them a little more useful and way less annoying?  If so, could someone maybe point me to them?

I mean, I've got a little bit of a start already on my own.  I feel like I'm just letting some important things slip to do other important things, though, so I thought a "system" like this might help me balance things out better.
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« Reply #1: August 14, 2008, 10:08:42 am »

Life lately has been stressy and jam-packed, and I've felt like there's never enough time to do everything that needs done and the house is always dirty and yada yada yada.  I remember FlyLady being helpful with this years ago, but I also remember (and confirmed, upon visiting the site again) that she's...  well, really really annoying in a lot of ways.  Am I recalling correctly that there are FlyLady alternatives out there, where people have taken the basic principles and made them a little more useful and way less annoying?  If so, could someone maybe point me to them?

I mean, I've got a little bit of a start already on my own.  I feel like I'm just letting some important things slip to do other important things, though, so I thought a "system" like this might help me balance things out better.

I've gotten into the box twice, using the original SHE system, (no email reminders) and both times I got pregnant.  It worked great for a month or two, then.   . . . . .  BUt no, I haven't seen any alternatives. but I know somewhere, there is a pagan one, I 've heard of it.  Off to go hunting.
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« Reply #2: August 14, 2008, 10:14:47 am »

Life lately has been stressy and jam-packed, and I've felt like there's never enough time to do everything that needs done and the house is always dirty and yada yada yada.  I remember FlyLady being helpful with this years ago, but I also remember (and confirmed, upon visiting the site again) that she's...  well, really really annoying in a lot of ways.  Am I recalling correctly that there are FlyLady alternatives out there, where people have taken the basic principles and made them a little more useful and way less annoying?  If so, could someone maybe point me to them?

I mean, I've got a little bit of a start already on my own.  I feel like I'm just letting some important things slip to do other important things, though, so I thought a "system" like this might help me balance things out better.

here ya go.

http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=flylady+pagan&submit=Search
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« Reply #3: August 14, 2008, 11:31:59 am »

Am I recalling correctly that there are FlyLady alternatives out there, where people have taken the basic principles and made them a little more useful and way less annoying?  If so, could someone maybe point me to them?

One of the things that helped me was getting the *book* out of the library, going through it, and snagging the relevant bits. I found it far less annoying.

I've got several other books at home (out from the library) - will take a look tonight.
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« Reply #4: August 14, 2008, 11:34:43 am »


Hey thanks, mandrina! I  was looking at my mighty collection of binders inspired by the FLY system, and I still have my flyfolder. I was doing pretty well on flylady, until the Iraq war started and....well, let's just say I didn't share her views... Roll Eyes

Still, periodically, when i need to remember that I don't totally suck as a housekeeper, I go shine my sink Wink
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« Reply #5: August 14, 2008, 12:59:17 pm »


One thing you can do (and I try to do) is just set up her "zones" and specific cleaning days on a Google Calendar as recurring events, and clean according to that. Then you don't have to have all the irritating reminders & instructions, which you really only need once. It's the scheduling that keeps ME on track. Smiley

It also lets you set up your own "zones" ... her zoning method doesn't work for me real well. I ended up zoning by first floor, second floor, basement, outdoors, and partial weeks off.
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« Reply #6: August 14, 2008, 12:59:30 pm »

Life lately has been stressy and jam-packed, and I've felt like there's never enough time to do everything that needs done and the house is always dirty and yada yada yada.  I remember FlyLady being helpful with this years ago, but I also remember (and confirmed, upon visiting the site again) that she's...  well, really really annoying in a lot of ways.  Am I recalling correctly that there are FlyLady alternatives out there, where people have taken the basic principles and made them a little more useful and way less annoying?  If so, could someone maybe point me to them?

I mean, I've got a little bit of a start already on my own.  I feel like I'm just letting some important things slip to do other important things, though, so I thought a "system" like this might help me balance things out better.

I know there is an alternative...kind of gothy and fun that Janna talked about ages ago...something like Bat lady?

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« Reply #7: August 14, 2008, 01:29:43 pm »

I know there is an alternative...kind of gothy and fun that Janna talked about ages ago...something like Bat lady?

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Ooh, if anyone comes across this (before I do lol) let me know!
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« Reply #8: August 14, 2008, 01:41:48 pm »

Ooh, if anyone comes across this (before I do lol) let me know!

After a little Googling (and remembering to try it as all one word--"bat lady" got me a comic about a skimpily-dressed vampire slayer or something), I think I found it:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BatLady/

Thank you everyone for the suggestions.  Smiley  The Yahoo groups (and assorted bloggy type web sites that I think I might have stumbled on elsewhere) I'm a little hesitant about, though.  I'd hoped there might be some sort of web page that outlined a plan--start here, follow these steps--that I could follow rather than jump into existing discussions about the details of how to do things...  Maybe I should just see if I can find the FlyLady book as suggested.
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« Reply #9: August 14, 2008, 01:50:14 pm »

After a little Googling (and remembering to try it as all one word--"bat lady" got me a comic about a skimpily-dressed vampire slayer or something), I think I found it:


That would have quickened my search, I bet.  Wink

Thanks!
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« Reply #10: August 18, 2008, 10:35:52 am »

Guys,

I thank everyone for their input, but over the weekend I realized something...  I've been looking for the wrong sort of site.   Undecided  It's not so much "how to get and keep my house clean" that I need, it's just time management in general.  *sigh*  Which, I mean, FlyLady and some other things I ran across do have some of that, and that's part of the whole plan, to manage your time so that you can keep the house clean and all.  But I think I need a more general focus.

I feel a little silly admitting that; you'd think I'd have learned time management along the way by now.  But everything just kind of got turned upside down when the baby was born, and somehow it just keeps on going...  I am not at my best when my routines are interrupted, unfortunately, and though I've developed new routines around her, the baby's awfully good at interrupting them and shaking them up anyway.  (As babies are prone to do.)

Are there even sites for things like that?  It seems like such a basic skill it would be difficult to teach.   Embarrassed
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« Reply #11: August 18, 2008, 10:42:03 am »

Guys,

I thank everyone for their input, but over the weekend I realized something...  I've been looking for the wrong sort of site.   Undecided  It's not so much "how to get and keep my house clean" that I need, it's just time management in general.  *sigh*  Which, I mean, FlyLady and some other things I ran across do have some of that, and that's part of the whole plan, to manage your time so that you can keep the house clean and all.  But I think I need a more general focus.

I feel a little silly admitting that; you'd think I'd have learned time management along the way by now.  But everything just kind of got turned upside down when the baby was born, and somehow it just keeps on going...  I am not at my best when my routines are interrupted, unfortunately, and though I've developed new routines around her, the baby's awfully good at interrupting them and shaking them up anyway.  (As babies are prone to do.)

Are there even sites for things like that?  It seems like such a basic skill it would be difficult to teach.   Embarrassed


I feel ya, Star. That was the hardest thing for me when my kids were small, esp. after I went back to work. I am trying to remember if I used any web-based tools for that kind of thing...I'll check, but I think the most powerful help I got was from my mommy group. If you are getting good peer support, it really helps a lot.
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« Reply #12: August 18, 2008, 10:57:15 am »

Are there even sites for things like that?  It seems like such a basic skill it would be difficult to teach.   Embarrassed

Get the book "Getting Things Done" and start reading LifeHacker!

Both are geek-focused organization and time-management.
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« Reply #13: August 18, 2008, 11:04:35 am »

Get the book "Getting Things Done" and start reading LifeHacker!

Both are geek-focused organization and time-management.

Geek-focused is good!  Grin  Thanks.  Smiley

Getting Things Done...  *runs quick search* by David Allen?  "The art of stress-free productivity"?  Our library has it--there are six holds ahead of me on two copies, but I could get in line.  (And I will.)
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« Reply #14: August 18, 2008, 11:35:08 am »

Getting Things Done...  *runs quick search* by David Allen?  "The art of stress-free productivity"?  Our library has it--there are six holds ahead of me on two copies, but I could get in line.  (And I will.)

Yep! The wikipedia article hits the highlights. Honestly, the book repeats itself a lot -- once you get the basic system down, it's a matter of tinkering to the find the right fit for you -- and there are plenty of websites out there with GTD systems and variations.

(I use "todoist" to track a single to-do list.)
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