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« Reply #9: December 12, 2010, 09:30:50 am »

That's a limited view of magic that relies primarily upon modern ceremonialist ideas about the primacy of the "Will."  It's also insulting to those magical traditions that *are* deeply entwined with a particular religious system, and are designed to work *within* that system.  "Thaumaturgy," by definition, is magic that works with gods, usually within the confines of a specific religion.   
Sorry, wasn't meant to be insulting... I was trying to post from an ipad, which makes detailed replies slower... I only meant to say that the practitioner should decide what method and powers to draw on. By will, I did not mean in the Crowleyian definition, I just meant it all starts from the practitioner's will -- without some kind of stated intention, there's no magic, really (I know, I'm being a little narrow, I was just trying to distill). But that will can (often should, and does in my case) connect to deity, to life energy, to elemental energy, and many other forms, including non-conscious and conscious deity (in my case all of the above). When I mentioned religion, I was referring to authority-based religions (and how it is not a bad thing to rely on this authority if that is your path), not religion in general. It was not intended in any way to be a criticism (more a: all paths are good, results are what matters). I honor deities daily, and it brings a lot of love, energy and healing into my life. I'm not a ceremonial magician primarily and didn't mean to present that point of view at all. I just expressed myself clumsily. Apologies.

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