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« Topic Start: September 12, 2008, 09:25:59 pm »

There are many characteristics that are attributed to the Gods. Often a God or a Goddess is said to be a God of Love, of War, of Poetry, of Healing. The list is endless.

The novel that I am currently reading, Avalon by Anya Seton, is set in England in approx. 900 CE and it has gotten me thinking about what it is that people actually want from a God. For instance, one character who is a Norseman and has lived in (mostly) Christian southern England has become frustrated with the worship of a God in a religion that is, to quote, "fit only for silly women and puling monks." He goes on to say that he now worships "Thor- The Thunderer." Evidently it is a God of stregth and power that he wishes to worship, and this is shown by his transformation from a manservant, to a warrior.

Consequently this shows that he wishes to worship a God which he relates to. In one respect, he has chosen his God in image of himself. Is this something that many of us are guilty of, do you think?

What is it that you want from your God(s)? Is there any particular quality that, for you, is important for a God to have?
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« Reply #1: September 12, 2008, 11:41:21 pm »

What is it that you want from your God(s)? Is there any particular quality that, for you, is important for a God to have?

No, not particularly. It depends what I am going through or trying to accomplish at the time. (Which is what is so nice about Paganism, so many to choose from  Smiley )

Sometimes of course, it is not so much what I want from them, but what they want from me.
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« Reply #2: September 13, 2008, 01:28:07 am »

There are many characteristics that are attributed to the Gods. Often a God or a Goddess is said to be a God of Love, of War, of Poetry, of Healing. The list is endless.

The novel that I am currently reading, Avalon by Anya Seton, is set in England in approx. 900 CE and it has gotten me thinking about what it is that people actually want from a God. For instance, one character who is a Norseman and has lived in (mostly) Christian southern England has become frustrated with the worship of a God in a religion that is, to quote, "fit only for silly women and puling monks." He goes on to say that he now worships "Thor- The Thunderer." Evidently it is a God of stregth and power that he wishes to worship, and this is shown by his transformation from a manservant, to a warrior.

Consequently this shows that he wishes to worship a God which he relates to. In one respect, he has chosen his God in image of himself. Is this something that many of us are guilty of, do you think?

What is it that you want from your God(s)? Is there any particular quality that, for you, is important for a God to have?

I want my gods to have character, for lack of a better word.  I don't know how to explain, but I'll try...

I want them to have a personality above and beyond what I could imagine for them.  I want them to be individuals, even if they share some characteristics with another god (for example, Athena and Ares both have warlike aspects, but they are not the same either in respect to their warlike aspects, or their personalities...)

Above all though, I want them to meddle as little as possible in my life.  I don't like asking for help, not even from a deity, it feels as though the accomplishment is lessened, if a god had to step in and lend a hand...  That said, I appreciate the gifts they gave me, and do accept that they will be looking in from time to time, to make sure I am using them wisely... or at least appropriately.
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« Reply #3: September 13, 2008, 07:34:55 pm »


I don't even like the idea of using a god as in terms of "magical tool" as I fear some of us these days do.

When I do talk aloud (and I'm trying to again every night like I did prior to moving out almost two years ago...) I tell them what I am seeking. To guide me on the right path, but never to hand it to me (which is the "magical tool" term I'm speaking of) as some try and do.

For whatever reason has been deemed I'm filled with the "Three H's" of my life. Hanuman, Hecate and Horus (all in due order of appearance). I don't understand it, but I speak to each of them. The only one who has made the most noteable and often answers (the "let me know your still there") is Hecate several times.

I seek nothing from her but watching over me. I seek to serve yes, but I seek to live life for my self. If she wants something from me, it's the very least I can do in return for all the wonders each of them have brough me in the past six months.

But, I also attribute that to all the gods as I was in quiet the pickle and did a truely selfless act for a year. For that, I am eternally grateful.  Kiss
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« Reply #4: September 13, 2008, 09:39:29 pm »


Above all though, I want them to meddle as little as possible in my life. 

I'll quote this, since I'm sure the first thing that I thought is against the CoC.  Cheesy

I like to know that they are there watching over me, but I'm also over the amount of crap that has been piled on me the last 5 months or so. *Shrug* Guess that's what I get for having a chaos deity hanging around me. Since I prefer order, and knowing exactly what I need to do, and when to do it, seems that someone decided that wasn't good for me, lol. *Sigh* Roll Eyes

To me, it's more of what they want from me, which Nile Lily already stated, I'll do my best to do as they wish.
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« Reply #5: September 13, 2008, 10:47:58 pm »

What is it that you want from your God(s)? Is there any particular quality that, for you, is important for a God to have?

You know, I keep thinking about this since this thread went up; and I have tried to puzzle it out before. I think the answer is 'nothing'. I am a materialist and have rationalised what I believe the gods to materially be and so find it hard to think in terms of what I need them to be. It's always in terms of what I think they are.
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« Reply #6: September 14, 2008, 04:26:45 pm »

Sometimes of course, it is not so much what I want from them, but what they want from me.

That's true, and I feel the same way.

To perhaps word my question differently for you all: is there any quality that you respond to best in a God? For instance, if a God asked you for something, or tried to offer help in something, how would you like them to approach you? With harsh words to kick you into shape? In a comforting, soothing way? Or doesn't it matter in the slightest?
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« Reply #7: September 14, 2008, 05:26:46 pm »

What is it that you want from your God(s)? Is there any particular quality that, for you, is important for a God to have?

I want to know that when I lay down at night I'm not really alone.
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« Reply #8: September 24, 2008, 05:16:07 pm »

Sometimes of course, it is not so much what I want from them, but what they want from me.

I agree with Nile_Lily.

Personally, I'd like to know that they are there for me when I need them.
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« Reply #9: September 25, 2008, 08:08:59 am »



Above all though, I want them to meddle as little as possible in my life. 
Is it terrible that this is what I want from my Gods as well most of the time. I love my Gods, I really do, but They do ask lot sometimes, and it's hard. Most of teh time what I want matters little to Them, it's what They want that I'm dealing with.
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« Reply #10: September 26, 2008, 02:01:03 am »

Is it terrible that this is what I want from my Gods as well most of the time. I love my Gods, I really do, but They do ask lot sometimes, and it's hard. Most of teh time what I want matters little to Them, it's what They want that I'm dealing with.

That's not so much what I meant, but that's something of it too, I guess.  My thing is, I want to be able to do things without their help.  I was and basically still am one of those indepent little cusses that don't want help.  (You know the little kid that is struggling with something.  Mommy goes to help them, and they scream, "No, I wanna do it myself."  That's me.)

I still get cheesed when guys think I need their help lifting things.  Although I think most of them in my new department have been warned about that by one of my friends who transferred a couple of weeks before me.  Thank the gods.
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« Reply #11: September 26, 2008, 08:47:36 am »

(You know the little kid that is struggling with something.  Mommy goes to help them, and they scream, "No, I wanna do it myself."  That's me.)

Heh, you're my daughter then. OK, I've got you.
I am an independant type person also (just ask any of my many ex's, I'm sure they'd all agree), which is why I rarely ask my Gods for anything. However, if They ask me for something I will do it. Sometimes it's a fight, but it does happen. I got lucky and found Gods that don't mind me asking "why," every time they talk to me!  Grin
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« Reply #12: September 26, 2008, 09:03:24 am »

Consequently this shows that he wishes to worship a God which he relates to. In one respect, he has chosen his God in image of himself. Is this something that many of us are guilty of, do you think?

What is it that you want from your God(s)? Is there any particular quality that, for you, is important for a God to have?

I wouldn't say 'guilty of'. To me the point is that we find gods who we can relate to in some fashion. The energy of the universe is faceless and thru the gods, we find ways to relate to it more personally.

What I want from my gods and what they want from me seems to depend on the day. Most days, it's seems like Artemis and I arguing about something. She wins.
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« Reply #13: September 26, 2008, 12:23:10 pm »

What is it that you want from your God(s)? Is there any particular quality that, for you, is important for a God to have?

I donít want to be ordered to do something. This probably stems from the fact that Iím very dependant which probably stems from the fact that I canít seem to get away from my family. Iíd prefer a confidant to confidant relationship. Rather because I donít think friend to friend really works and I donít want a Deity to worshiper relationship. Or rather, I donít want to feel like I am below any deity or less worthy. Thou art Goddess and all that.  I want to know I have someone at my back when I need it and someone to be stern and frank when Iím being dumb. I donít have a lot of people in my life who know the real me, not the outward shell. So, I want my deity to have the ability to see what I am hiding and call me out on it. In essence, I want my gods to be gods and force the silly little human to grow in ways she never imagined.

I reached out for Hacate in the beginning because she was the obvious choice for my focus on witchcraft. I stayed with Hacate because I found her to be a no nonsense kind of deity, demanding in the ways I needed to keep myself going forward. I want to be different tomorrow from the way I am today...
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« Reply #14: October 09, 2008, 08:50:50 pm »

What is it that you want from your God(s)? Is there any particular quality that, for you, is important for a God to have?

I agree to serve my Gods with the agreement that they have my back when I need it. Which may not mean helping me win the lottery if I'm in need of cash... but when I pray for help and guidance, I want them there to listen and help. Those are my boons.

It's important to me that they be flexible. I'm willing to serve, and give offerings as needed, but they need to realize that I do have mundane responsibilities as well. I can't blow off work whenever Brigit whispers that it's a beautiful day to be outside writing or tending the garden. I need my job to pay the bills and keep the roof over our heads.

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