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« Reply #15: April 17, 2007, 05:36:28 am »

BTW. As an example of the potential dangers of unshielded scrying, I would point out a little history lesson.  Back in 1692, a group of girls learned a form of scrying that involved an egg white dropped in water.  They wanted to see the faces of their future husbands.  One of them saw something that freaked her out and the result was the Salem Witch Trials.
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« Reply #16: April 17, 2007, 08:31:00 am »

BTW. As an example of the potential dangers of unshielded scrying, I would point out a little history lesson.  Back in 1692, a group of girls learned a form of scrying that involved an egg white dropped in water.  They wanted to see the faces of their future husbands.  One of them saw something that freaked her out and the result was the Salem Witch Trials.

Shielding during scrying will not prevent one from seeing something that will freak them out. All it can do is prevent the very rare case of some entity trying to possess them while they are doing so. This is rare because most scryers aren't inviting any entities in the area unlike what is often done with ouija boards and automatic writing.
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« Reply #17: April 17, 2007, 04:42:01 pm »

Tana, can you please use the quote function so we know what post you're responding to?  Thanks.

Oops, sorry, forgot  Smiley
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« Reply #18: April 17, 2007, 04:50:09 pm »

BTW. As an example of the potential dangers of unshielded scrying, I would point out a little history lesson.  Back in 1692, a group of girls learned a form of scrying that involved an egg white dropped in water.  They wanted to see the faces of their future husbands.  One of them saw something that freaked her out and the result was the Salem Witch Trials.

Well, I'm with Randall here.
I don't think this is a very good example. After all, one could freak out by a tarot reading, a shamanic journey, a dream - that has not much to do with some critters that are out to get you as soon as you do something magical.

And btw as far as I know, not all magic-working traditions use circles to protect them and still do their work. I think sure they can be dangers to magic work, but in my so far expierence they lie mostly within an unstable psyche. And if a person is unstable and tries to break open their own subconscious no shielding would help anyway imho.
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« Reply #19: April 17, 2007, 06:11:45 pm »

And btw as far as I know, not all magic-working traditions use circles to protect them and still do their work.

Most folk magic traditions do not perform their magic in circles.
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« Reply #20: April 17, 2007, 10:16:48 pm »

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But they do use other forms of protection, even if it's only a lucky amulet or a hex sign.  Historicly, folk magic tends to be primarily concered with protection from hostile magic.
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« Reply #21: April 17, 2007, 11:01:00 pm »

But they do use other forms of protection, even if it's only a lucky amulet or a hex sign.  Historicly, folk magic tends to be primarily concered with protection from hostile magic.

But many folk magic users don't use them specifically to protect themselves from bad things happening during a spell.
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« Reply #22: April 23, 2007, 05:58:49 pm »

I'm especially fond of my black mirror - though I also have a large green ball that I use and works well.
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« Reply #23: February 15, 2010, 06:31:42 am »

And btw as far as I know, not all magic-working traditions use circles to protect them and still do their work. I think sure they can be dangers to magic work, but in my so far expierence they lie mostly within an unstable psyche. And if a person is unstable and tries to break open their own subconscious no shielding would help anyway imho.

I'm still very hazy on kundalini, but isn't that the idea posited with bad kundalini experiences-- if you aren't ready to face the knowledge/awareness, getting hit with it can be extremely unpleasant?  (Or am I still missing the point there?)
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« Reply #24: February 15, 2010, 12:21:59 pm »

I'm still very hazy on kundalini, but isn't that the idea posited with bad kundalini experiences-- if you aren't ready to face the knowledge/awareness, getting hit with it can be extremely unpleasant?  (Or am I still missing the point there?)

Not an expert either, but there is a lot of warnings and scare-the-newb especially with Kundalini.
At least that's for what I've read so far on the subject.

I think it also has to do with the power rising up and one not being able to handle that amount of strong energy.
Which I'm not unwilling to believe. I guess, that it can cause damage and problems. In the least mess one up pretty good on an energy level.
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« Reply #25: February 15, 2010, 05:38:03 pm »

I think it also has to do with the power rising up and one not being able to handle that amount of strong energy.
Which I'm not unwilling to believe. I guess, that it can cause damage and problems. In the least mess one up pretty good on an energy level.

Sounds about right.  I've heard a lot of kundalini boogieman stories.  Always curious about that stuff, though, because I've had the occasional "endless bliss" moments in meditative states.  I think there are many flavors of bliss, but everyone's so secretive about it.  Every different path that claims bliss puffs its chest and says "our bliss is better than your bliss."  It seems childish.

So, anyway, yeah.  I'm wandering far from the point.  As far as scrying goes, I never could get it to work when I stared into crystals.  Got my best results staring at a blank wall.  However, I think that worked because I was willing to devote the time to staring at the wall and totally relaxing my mind whereas when I stared at the crystal I was so busy focusing on the result that I never relaxed enough to slip into even the mildest trance state.  Even when staring at the wall, though, I got excellent writing ideas and only limited insights.
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« Reply #26: February 15, 2010, 05:45:46 pm »

On rare occasion I use do line-scrying. My dad actually taught me this as a kid because we're all a kooky family of artists.

Basically for a person I scribble their name and birthdate (for a situation, I'll try to boil a question down to as small a form as possible). I layer the letters/ numbers on top of each other in loose, usually curvy style- the point being that the end result should look like a big scribble where you really can't tell any letters apart. I'll often rotate the paper to obscure the jumble as much as possible. I've found that using curved letters (as opposed to very stick-straight styles) result in pictures and forms being easier to see, but that's just me.

Then I gawk at the mess until I 'see' a picture. Usually, I'll trace over the picture (or pictures) with a pen so I can go back to it.

Not the most useful of scrying in my opinion since the result is really just a picture.
Whoa, this sounds cool (for lack of a better word)! Definitely something I could see working. I've actually done this before (writing the letters on top of one another) just messing around. I can especially see it working to do it without lifting the pen/cil off the paper (like writing cursive).

As for the original question... I actually do like scrying, which is kind of strange since I don't really like divination. heh. I've scryed in a candle flame and water before, with the candle flame being generally more successful.

Also, I have a quilt that got hung up in my room recently that has been half-trancing me since it's on the wall right in front of my bed.  Cheesy
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« Reply #27: February 16, 2010, 12:59:26 pm »

As for the original question... I actually do like scrying, which is kind of strange since I don't really like divination. heh. I've scryed in a candle flame and water before, with the candle flame being generally more successful.

How do you do fire scrying? I've tried with a candle, but staring at it always hurts my eyes. I thought maybe I should wear sunglasses, haha!
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« Reply #28: February 16, 2010, 02:29:55 pm »

How do you do fire scrying? I've tried with a candle, but staring at it always hurts my eyes. I thought maybe I should wear sunglasses, haha!

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I found out, that scrying is not really for user of contacts.  Roll Eyes
Not blinking over a longer time is not good. at. all.
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« Reply #29: February 16, 2010, 10:15:55 pm »

How do you do fire scrying? I've tried with a candle, but staring at it always hurts my eyes. I thought maybe I should wear sunglasses, haha!
Yeah, if I focus just on the flame, it's a bit bright. And I agree with Tana about the contacts. haha. I might focus just on the flame, but more usually I'll let my eye wander among the flame, the pool of wax at the base of the wick, and the glass behind the flame (I use a glass votive holder). These latter two will have reflections or shadows that move around with the flame, and the melted wax under the flame is generally where I'll see things most. But like I said, I just kind of let my eye wander in that general area.
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