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« Topic Start: April 15, 2007, 01:23:51 pm »

Hi,

My first question to you all is one I'm hoping to get a variety of
answers to, and it is this:

What book(s) would you recommend I start my journey with? If I was
starting out in Christianity for instance, I'd go & buy a Bible, but as
I'm not, I need guidance! I'm looking for things on Paganism in general, Wicca & Witchcraft and the Occult.

My money situation is very tight so where possible I'd rather not buy
books, although I may be able to get some 2nd hand off e-Bay or
something. My local library is pretty good too.

I know I could just go to a shop, but I want to get the advice of
people who care, not just someone in Waterstones who wants a sale!

Thanks

PS. Am also posting in Magic & Occult 101 too!
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« Reply #1: April 15, 2007, 01:48:44 pm »

Hi,

My first question to you all is one I'm hoping to get a variety of
answers to, and it is this:

What book(s) would you recommend I start my journey with? If I was
starting out in Christianity for instance, I'd go & buy a Bible, but as
I'm not, I need guidance! I'm looking for things on Paganism in general, Wicca & Witchcraft and the Occult.

My money situation is very tight so where possible I'd rather not buy
books, although I may be able to get some 2nd hand off e-Bay or
something. My local library is pretty good too.

I know I could just go to a shop, but I want to get the advice of
people who care, not just someone in Waterstones who wants a sale!

Thanks

PS. Am also posting in Magic & Occult 101 too!

Welcome to the Cauldron!

I removed the duplicate post.

As far as where to look, I suggest you start with http://www.ecauldron.com/newpagan.php
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« Reply #2: April 15, 2007, 07:01:16 pm »

What book(s) would you recommend I start my journey with? If I was
starting out in Christianity for instance, I'd go & buy a Bible, but as
I'm not, I need guidance! I'm looking for things on Paganism in general, Wicca & Witchcraft and the Occult.

My money situation is very tight so where possible I'd rather not buy
books, although I may be able to get some 2nd hand off e-Bay or
something. My local library is pretty good too.

Here are a few good starter books (general) that your library may be able to get (as they are older books):

Dawning Down the Moon by Margot Adler

Persuasions of the Witch's Craft by T.M. Luhrman

Mastering Witchcraft by Paul Huson

A Witches Bible by Janet & Stewart Farrar (originally two books: Eight Sabbats for Witches and The Witches' Way)
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« Reply #3: April 15, 2007, 07:41:03 pm »

Hi,

My first question to you all is one I'm hoping to get a variety of
answers to, and it is this:

Welcome to the Cauldron!
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« Reply #4: April 15, 2007, 09:49:55 pm »

Hi,

My first question to you all is one I'm hoping to get a variety of
answers to, and it is this:

What book(s) would you recommend I start my journey with? If I was
starting out in Christianity for instance, I'd go & buy a Bible, but as
I'm not, I need guidance! I'm looking for things on Paganism in general, Wicca & Witchcraft and the Occult.

My money situation is very tight so where possible I'd rather not buy
books, although I may be able to get some 2nd hand off e-Bay or
something. My local library is pretty good too.

I know I could just go to a shop, but I want to get the advice of
people who care, not just someone in Waterstones who wants a sale!

Thanks

PS. Am also posting in Magic & Occult 101 too!

I'm going to ask a couple of questions instead.

What kind of books do you want? 

Do you want books that talk about the history of the pagan community?  That's Adler. Although her book is dated. It was last revised in 1986.

Do you want books that give you rituals so you can start worshipping quickly?  That's Farrar's Witch's Bible.  Although you can find rituals for free on the internet.

As a contrast, if somebody wanted to become Christian and start worshipping, I would Not start them with a Bible.
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« Reply #5: April 15, 2007, 10:10:22 pm »

Hi,

My first question to you all is one I'm hoping to get a variety of
answers to, and it is this:

What book(s) would you recommend I start my journey with? If I was
starting out in Christianity for instance, I'd go & buy a Bible, but as
I'm not, I need guidance! I'm looking for things on Paganism in general, Wicca & Witchcraft and the Occult.

My money situation is very tight so where possible I'd rather not buy
books, although I may be able to get some 2nd hand off e-Bay or
something. My local library is pretty good too.

I know I could just go to a shop, but I want to get the advice of
people who care, not just someone in Waterstones who wants a sale!

Thanks

PS. Am also posting in Magic & Occult 101 too!

I would advise not worrying.  Just like a good deal when buying drapes or a kitchen table, the long term good deals aren't going anywhere.  Quality!  There are a hundred people selling blinds.  Hang in there.  The site that were good to me and gave good advice remained good advice and great people through the long term. The good stuff isn't going anywhere.  It is not a mirage. 

I"m not an Isis gal, but am confidant in the diversity of the Cauldron.  There are a lot of places to start.  I found the exercises in Starhawk's "The Spiral Dance to be a wonderful place to start, although I am not of her group 'Reclaiming'. 

You can use the exercises in nearly any practice without dedicating yourself to be exclusively of the belief system advocated by the book.
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« Reply #6: April 15, 2007, 10:34:22 pm »

Do you want books that talk about the history of the pagan community?  That's Adler. Although her book is dated. It was last revised in 1986.

Actually a revised edition was put out last year, complete with an updated version of the origins of Wicca.  I flipped through it in the bookstore a month or so ago.
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« Reply #7: April 16, 2007, 12:38:23 am »

What book(s) would you recommend I start my journey with? My local library is pretty good too.

For a good overview, including history, lore and practice, I'd recommend Doreen Valiente's 'Witchcraft for Tomorrow'. Your library will either have it in stock, or be able to order it for you. My only gripe would be for her obvious dislike of Aleister Crowley, but it's generally a very good introduction.
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« Reply #8: April 16, 2007, 07:22:39 am »

Actually a revised edition was put out last year, complete with an updated version of the origins of Wicca.  I flipped through it in the bookstore a month or so ago.

Hmm.  Amazon.com shows a 2006 printing, but copyright remained at 1986. That's from the look inside the book feature. Hmm, wonderful, note at top says the look inside is from the 1986 edition, not the 2006 version. Well, that makes the look inside almost useless.
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« Reply #9: April 16, 2007, 08:39:41 am »

Hmm.  Amazon.com shows a 2006 printing, but copyright remained at 1986. That's from the look inside the book feature. Hmm, wonderful, note at top says the look inside is from the 1986 edition, not the 2006 version. Well, that makes the look inside almost useless.

True.  Maaybe someone should point this out to Amazon?  I'm sure the publisher (Beacon Press?) is the one who needs to fix it, but maybe Amazon can tell them?
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« Reply #10: April 16, 2007, 09:49:01 am »

Hi & thanks for all the advice so far. I thought it better to do a mass reply rather than clog up the board with individual posts. Apologies in advance if I've missed anyone off!

HeartShadow - sorry for the duplicate post - with it being 2 seperate boards I wasn't sure 1 was enough! That link is also briliant!

Randalls - I've been recommended the Farrar one before so it's good that it keeps coming up. Older books are probably a good idea cos I think if I went straight into the new stuff I'd be even more lost as they're bound to refer to older ones.

Star - thanks Smiley

sailor_tech - yes I think historical books are a good place for me to start as I want an overall view. There are so many x-overs with Wicca, Egyptian & Greek mythology etc & I'm very confused!!! I don't want to offend anyone by saying this, but at this point I'm not sure whether this is the right path for me, so "worshipping" as such is not on the cards at the moment. I'm very uncertain about everything, and that's half my problem, and until I can start to get my head around things, I won't know whether this is something I can (or want to do). Hope that makes sense!?!? lol. The main thing is that I'm keen to learn so that can only be good surely?!!

Mandi - sound advice & I really should listen to it! I'm very impatient & because I've been trying to learn on & off for a couple of years, I want it all NOW!!!  Undecided lol

Not sure what else to say at the moment tbh. All I know is that I don't want to start my journey half-arsed, that's why i asked for advice, and I'm very grateful for your comments so far  Grin
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« Reply #11: April 16, 2007, 09:59:18 am »

Hi & thanks for all the advice so far. I thought it better to do a mass reply rather than clog up the board with individual posts. Apologies in advance if I've missed anyone off!

Either way is fine, but don't forget to quote people (either by replying with the "Quote" button on each post, or using the "Insert Quote" links on the reply screen--you might have to scroll down to see these).  Both of these options insert quotes from the posts you're replying to and links back to them.  That way we can keep track of not just who you're replying to, but also what posts exactly, which is really helpful in keeping track of how the conversation's developing.  (Especially if someone needs to go back at some later date and trace the thread of the conversation back.)

Not such a big deal for this thread at the moment, probably, but just something to keep in mind for future reference.  Smiley

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HeartShadow - sorry for the duplicate post - with it being 2 seperate boards I wasn't sure 1 was enough!

Yeah, we really prefer people don't post the same thing to multiple boards.  Think of them as folders, rather than separate forums--most people aren't just sticking to one or two, so probably people who can help you will see what you post as long as you get it in a halfway logical place.  Wink
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« Reply #12: April 16, 2007, 12:27:51 pm »

True.  Maaybe someone should point this out to Amazon?  I'm sure the publisher (Beacon Press?) is the one who needs to fix it, but maybe Amazon can tell them?

That actually happens frequently, but it is totally up to the individual publishers whether they want to display the correct edition or display anything at all. It's doubtful Amazon would contact them to correct it given the sheer number of publishers feeding information to Amazon.

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