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Author Topic: Not that this is a shock, but Palin is a flipping idiot  (Read 6187 times)
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« Reply #15: November 09, 2008, 12:07:16 pm »


GOP commentator George Will has intimated in the past that the Team Corporate America faction of the Republican Party is nervous about Huckabee. The possibility that President Huckabee might be a Christian in more than name with regard to social justice issues, and might use his faith as a powerful justification to actually reign in corporate abuses, genuinely frightens them.

After all, how can the pro-business wing of the GOP accuse Mike Huckabee of being an evil, godless 'socialist'? They're the ones who've collectively hitched their wagon to the Christian Right horse. They created Huckabee, but they don't have the power to take him down.

I think that Corporate America's wariness of Huckabee, plus the knowledge that his candidacy will be greeted with outright hostility by many independent voters, has compelled many pragmatic Christian Right activists within the Republican Party to back other candidates instead.

That was pretty much what I remembered about Huckabee from the primaries. What I found interesting, though, was he didn't pick up the support of some of the big name fundies, either. That's what puzzled me. I mean, the GOP had real problems in the primaries because each candidate had one leg of that three-legged stool the GOP is built on that didn't like him. No matter who you looked at, there was a real weakness showing.
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« Reply #16: November 09, 2008, 12:42:31 pm »



I was amazed a couple of weeks ago when she and McCain were interviewed by Brian Williams on the NBC Nightly News. She said that something she didn't like about Obama was that he was willing to sit down and talk to the leaders of other countries, like North Korea. She said that we shouldn't talk to leaders we disagree with, that we should bomb them instead. And she called herself a foreign diplomat because she could see both Canada and Russia from her home state? Diplomat indeed!
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« Reply #17: November 09, 2008, 04:55:58 pm »

I was amazed a couple of weeks ago when she and McCain were interviewed by Brian Williams on the NBC Nightly News. She said that something she didn't like about Obama was that he was willing to sit down and talk to the leaders of other countries, like North Korea. She said that we shouldn't talk to leaders we disagree with, that we should bomb them instead. And she called herself a foreign diplomat because she could see both Canada and Russia from her home state? Diplomat indeed!

That's only the tip of the iceberg in that interview.  Williams brought up Ayers and asked her if she considered bombing abortion clinics to be a form of terrorism.  From what I can tell, she danced around the question and didn't answer it directly.
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« Reply #18: November 09, 2008, 05:17:06 pm »

She said that we shouldn't talk to leaders we disagree with, that we should bomb them instead.

The idea what one should not talk with one's enemies unless they are first willing to basically surrender and do whatever you want them to do is one of the weirdest ideas coming out of the current Republican party. It's not just McCain and Palin, there are many others in the Republican party who seem to feel that way. 

It doesn't make any sense to me. Talking seldom hurts and often helps -- sometimes by actually solving the problems -- other times by delaying things so you are in better position to use force, etc. The idea that just sitting down and talking without (often outrageous) preconditions is bad is just weird.
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« Reply #19: November 09, 2008, 06:28:53 pm »



I cant think of many recent examples where fighting has done much more than perpetuate the violence.
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« Reply #20: November 09, 2008, 06:31:17 pm »

The idea what one should not talk with one's enemies unless they are first willing to basically surrender and do whatever you want them to do is one of the weirdest ideas coming out of the current Republican party. It's not just McCain and Palin, there are many others in the Republican party who seem to feel that way.

The way things were going under Bush, certain mainstream European countries could have ended up on that side of the barrier. That's one thing which the Republicans need to understand that there are other countries out there with respectable GDPs and resources that they just can't afford to annoy.

You cannot believe the popular and governmental support amongst most EU countries for Obama... We really view this as a chance to fix the huge tears in the relationship between Europe and the US after Bush. It's a huge shame to see the US and Europe so separated after so many years of good relationships and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Obama will have the chance to make this better. Then, come 2012 we at least have a chance to work together instead of having such strong popular opposition to working with the US, Democrat president or not (though I have to admit that I'm keeping my fingers firmly crossed for a Democrat president!!!)
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« Reply #21: November 09, 2008, 07:24:04 pm »


That was pretty much what I remembered about Huckabee from the primaries. What I found interesting, though, was he didn't pick up the support of some of the big name fundies, either.

Well, it's pretty difficult to cry about how persecuted you are when one of your own is candidate for a major party (or actually president, God forbid) and you make up 85% of the electorate (not that it's stopped them under Bush, but people were sufficiently distracted by the "War on Terror" for them not to be as fixated on the "War on Christmas").

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That's what puzzled me. I mean, the GOP had real problems in the primaries because each candidate had one leg of that three-legged stool the GOP is built on that didn't like him. No matter who you looked at, there was a real weakness showing.

That, along w/the sick lust for Palin in the evangelical community, is why my brother is convinced there'll be a split w/i the Republican party, and the Jesus camp will break off.  Maybe we'll finally have a viable third party...but at what cost? *shudder*
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« Reply #22: November 10, 2008, 09:35:33 am »



*nods*  I was in Greece and Turkey over the summer, and people, once they found out my husband and I were Americans, would ask, with so much hope, "Obama?"  And we'd say, "Yes!", and they'd be just thrilled.  I've never had a bad time traveling as an American (everywhere I went, when I went, people seemed to assume that since I bothered to leave my country, I must not be the most horrible variety of American), but this was the first time I felt like my American-ness was a cause for happy excitement.
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« Reply #23: November 10, 2008, 09:53:15 am »

but this was the first time I felt like my American-ness was a cause for happy excitement.

Try visiting now... You'll find people even happier! Smiley
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« Reply #24: November 11, 2008, 09:22:57 am »


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/05/palin-didnt-know-africa-i_n_141653.html

Palin Didn't Know Africa Is A Continent, Says Fox News

I may be on the late side , but this AM i was reading... Huffington Post..., and it sounds as tho this story was yet another elaborate hoax.    (some people must have far too much time on their hands...)

 Still, the original story certainly seemed plausable to me...!  I was willing to believe it.     Mea.
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« Reply #25: November 11, 2008, 09:40:19 am »

I may be on the late side , but this AM i was reading... Huffington Post..., and it sounds as tho this story was yet another elaborate hoax.    (some people must have far too much time on their hands...)

 Still, the original story certainly seemed plausable to me...!  I was willing to believe it.     Mea.

Hoaxes like this only succeed because the target is so appropriate.  If someone had said that Joe Biden didn't know Africa was a continent, the story would have never taken off.

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