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« Topic Start: April 16, 2007, 04:16:16 pm »

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BLACKSBURG, Va. - A gunman opened fire in a dormitory and a classroom at a college in Virginia on Monday, killing at least 30 people in the deadliest campus shooting in U.S. history. The gunman also was killed, and at least 22 other people were injured.
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« Reply #1: April 16, 2007, 04:18:11 pm »

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**sigh** I've been keeping an eye on MSNBC and have watched the body count go higher and higher.
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« Reply #2: April 16, 2007, 05:49:25 pm »


This is just awful.
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« Reply #3: April 16, 2007, 07:30:54 pm »

My ex and his wife are alumni, and her brother is a cop working the scene at the moment.  They are really shaken up, even though they're across the country at the moment.
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« Reply #4: April 16, 2007, 09:09:58 pm »

Friend lives about a mile from campus. He and family are alright, but on higher alert. This is the second one this year I think at VT?
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« Reply #5: April 16, 2007, 10:06:28 pm »

Friend lives about a mile from campus. He and family are alright, but on higher alert. This is the second one this year I think at VT?

Peter,

I think this may be the only shooting incident, but I know I read that the school has had a couple of unsolved bomb threats...that last one on Friday.
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« Reply #6: April 17, 2007, 09:15:52 am »

This is creepy because for a while I was thinking about going to VT.  I'm so glad I decided to go into the culinary arts instead of becoming a vetrenarian.
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« Reply #7: April 17, 2007, 11:02:56 am »


The gunman has been identified. He was a student at the university in his senior year.

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Police identified the gunman as Cho Seung-hui, a 23-year-old in his final year of college.


According to the article one of the guns was used in both shooting so VA state police are pretty sure he was responsible for both. No motive yet.
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« Reply #8: April 17, 2007, 06:39:07 pm »

The gunman has been identified. He was a student at the university in his senior year.

There's more information in this article- mentions that he was a step away from being a naturalized citizen, so he would have been able to legally buy firearms. Apparently his creative writing brought up some concerns.
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« Reply #9: April 17, 2007, 10:28:06 pm »


I can't believe this.  My heart goes out to all the families and friends of the victims.
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« Reply #10: April 18, 2007, 07:40:13 am »


Chosunilbo is running this piece:

U.S. Korean Community Shocked at Virginia Shooting

Korean communities in the U.S. were horrified when it emerged that the gunman who killed 33 others at Virginia Tech was Korean student Cho Seung-hui. Recalling the nightmare of the 1992 Los Angeles riots, Koreans in the U.S. worried about retaliation from other ethnic groups. Some are considering leaving the U.S. There were also fears that the incident could negatively affect U.S. deliberations on including Korea in its visa waiver program.

This seems a little ... paranoid?  Has anyone actually observed a retaliatory attitude toward Koreans based on this incident?  I've only seen this mentioned in this paper, but my coworkers seem unduly concerned about this, considering that Cho hasn't lived in Korea for fifteen years.  The western media seems more concerned with how his visa status affected his ability to buy guns, not about his country of citizenship.
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« Reply #11: April 18, 2007, 08:58:25 am »

This seems a little ... paranoid?  Has anyone actually observed a retaliatory attitude toward Koreans based on this incident?

I haven't. While I'm sure some of the anti-immigration folks are saying something negative about immigrants in general, it isn't making the news because all the pro-gun people are making the headlines by saying students and teachers should be armed so they can defend themselves. Then there are the real nutcases making headlines by complaining that all the students were cowards for not the jumping the guy and disarming him. So while I'm sure the anti-immigrant folks out out there, they are having a hard time getting attention.

As for people in general being angry at random Koreans, I haven't heard of anything like that.
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« Reply #12: April 18, 2007, 09:04:19 am »

I haven't. While I'm sure some of the anti-immigration folks are saying something negative about immigrants in general, it isn't making the news because all the pro-gun people are making the headlines by saying students and teachers should be armed so they can defend themselves. Then there are the real nutcases making headlines by complaining that all the students were cowards for not the jumping the guy and disarming him. So while I'm sure the anti-immigrant folks out out there, they are having a hard time getting attention.

As for people in general being angry at random Koreans, I haven't heard of anything like that.

I've been absolutely disgusted with the calls for concealed weapons to be carried on campuses and the loons bitching that no one body tackled the killer.

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« Reply #13: April 18, 2007, 10:33:55 am »

As for people in general being angry at random Koreans, I haven't heard of anything like that.

Nor have I.  In fact, the ONLY place I seem to keep hearing it is speculation from the media.  Like they're looking for a story that just isn't there, but they're making it up anyway.
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« Reply #14: April 18, 2007, 11:53:00 am »

I've been absolutely disgusted with the calls for concealed weapons to be carried on campuses and the loons bitching that no one body tackled the killer.

**boggles**
Concealed carry is legal in Virginia. HOWEVER, the Virginia Tech campus forbids it, even to a legally licensed individual. Most Va college/university campuses forbid, although there are a few exceptions.
Most people in Va who get a concealed carry license have had firearms training.
I had a concealed carry license for several years myself when I lived in Va.
If someone who was comfortable and experienced with firearms had been there carrying...well, I guess I am on the side of the *loons*.
It's a hell of a lot harder to be a helpless victim when you can fire back.
I am sure there are many students there that have/had CCW  and the skill to fire back, when you consider the number of students there in ROTC, the number of students that are military vets, etc.

I am concerned that the gun-control nuts are going to jump on this as an excuse to put even more restrictions on private ownership of firearms. I am a member of the NRA and was raised in a household where guns were readily accessible. That being said, I was also raised to respect the power of firearms and the great responsibility it is to own or handle one.
The shooter at VT was a resident alien and met all the requirements necessary to purchase and own a firearm in Va. Now I hear calls for more stringent laws to prevent this from happening again.
Maybe they should address all the teachers that had concerns about the young man in the past...including one teacher that was so frightened of him she said she had him kicked out of her class and told admin at the university that if he wasn't removed, she would quit.
No one called his parents with their concerns? No one asked the university psychologist (they have  one) to interview him?
I understand a report on his behaviors was made (previously) to the VT university police, but it was simply *filed*.
And the police there...university and local police both and the university admin, as well, not warning students after the first shooting> WTF? They KNEW they had a gunman somewhere, but did not warn the students? And please, there is all that ridiculous crap of "Putting the university in *lockdown*." ANYONE who has been to Blacksburg will tell you that is a virtual impossibility. Va Tech, like UVA and MCV is an *open* campus...no high walls, fences etc...Va Tech is part and parcel of Blacksburg and Blacksburg is part and parcel of Va Tech.
It also bothers me that there were no locks on the classroom doors.
So many little things...that all added up to a horrific result.
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