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« Reply #15: December 13, 2008, 05:19:07 am »

What comes to my mind, Lusiphelia, is that maybe the use of paper cups is, as Sperran says, to be scrupulous about avoiding the non-kosher, but the growing stack of them is just a personal idiosyncracy, and the bosses, finding all of it equally inexplicable and exotic, have conflated the two under "it's some religious thing".

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That makes sense, and is I'm sure a possibility.
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« Reply #16: December 13, 2008, 09:59:17 am »

Yeah.  Which is why I wanted to find out.  Sorry if I offended?

No offense taken from where I sit. 
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« Reply #17: December 13, 2008, 10:03:23 am »

No offense taken from where I sit. 

None from me, either.  You can't find out if you don't ask.

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« Reply #18: December 13, 2008, 11:55:32 am »

The only thing that comes to mind is that sometimes very observant Jews will use paper dishes in order to keep from using dishes that haven't been koshered.

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Wait. Dishes can be unkosher? I thought it was just food. Do dishes become unkosher from having unkosher food on them?
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« Reply #19: December 13, 2008, 12:31:30 pm »


A kosher household has two sets of dishes: one for meat, one for dairy. Dairy and meat aren't served together, and aren't even kept in the same refrigerator. (And that's why most of the Jewish folks I know don't go fully kosher--they can't afford the expense of two sets of everything, let alone the space to store it all.)

I stayed with Jewish friends for a month once when I was between apartments. I had to learn I couldn't have milk with my meals. I couldn't even bring some of my foodstuffs (like oyster sauce) into their house, I had to find other storage for them. I didn't complain, it was a true learning experience for me.
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« Reply #20: December 13, 2008, 02:59:50 pm »

(And that's why most of the Jewish folks I know don't go fully kosher--they can't afford the expense of two sets of everything, let alone the space to store it all.)


Almost all the Jews I know that keep kosher are vegetarian, or eat fish only (which is considered Parve) in large part because it is easier to be vegetarian than to learn all the detailed kosher laws.

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« Reply #21: December 13, 2008, 04:47:48 pm »

A kosher household has two sets of dishes: one for meat, one for dairy. Dairy and meat aren't served together, and aren't even kept in the same refrigerator. (And that's why most of the Jewish folks I know don't go fully kosher--they can't afford the expense of two sets of everything, let alone the space to store it all.)


Three sets, or at least for making of food.  That allows a person to making say a milk-free bread that can be served with milch (diary) or fliesh (meat) dishes.  If it was made in a milch cooking dish, you couldn't serve the bread with the roast that night.

The use of two sinks or two refrigerators is a modern and ultra Orthodox thing.  You just have to keep things seperate within the frig and use seperate dish pans for washing of dishes.
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« Reply #22: December 13, 2008, 05:28:25 pm »


Wait. Dishes can be unkosher? I thought it was just food. Do dishes become unkosher from having unkosher food on them?

Short answer...yes. 

Longer answer...While most people think of the term "kosher" as relevant to food (which it certainly is) "kosher" is generally a shorthand way of saying "correct" or "appropriate" according to law and tradition.  Food might be kosher (or not), but so can dishes, clothing, Torahs, ritual observance, etc.

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« Reply #23: December 13, 2008, 10:53:36 pm »

A kosher household has two sets of dishes: one for meat, one for dairy. Dairy and meat aren't served together, and aren't even kept in the same refrigerator. (And that's why most of the Jewish folks I know don't go fully kosher--they can't afford the expense of two sets of everything, let alone the space to store it all.)

I stayed with Jewish friends for a month once when I was between apartments. I had to learn I couldn't have milk with my meals. I couldn't even bring some of my foodstuffs (like oyster sauce) into their house, I had to find other storage for them. I didn't complain, it was a true learning experience for me.

And to top it off, many orthadox and conservative temples have two seperate kitchens -- one for meat and the other for dairy.
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« Reply #24: December 14, 2008, 02:37:22 am »

One of the men I work with is a Haisidic (sp?) Jew.  He has a steadily growing stack of paper cups on his desk that apparently has a kind of religious significance.  I wondered if anyone on the board (Jewish or otherwise) knew what it's about.


I was going to say, after reading this all, that if he hadn't said it was religious (did he? or is someone guessing over there?) he was doing it because he had an obessive/compulsive disorder, or something similar.
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« Reply #25: December 14, 2008, 07:14:46 am »

I was going to say, after reading this all, that if he hadn't said it was religious (did he? or is someone guessing over there?) he was doing it because he had an obessive/compulsive disorder, or something similar.

He didn't.  The boss of the man stacking the cups said it was religious.
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