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« Topic Start: December 14, 2008, 12:20:13 pm »

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Do you worship and/or honor ALL deities in your "chosen" pantheon, only specific ones you feel called to, or ?

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Why? If you worship/honor all deities do you feel it is an obligation, or an important aspect of your path?  If you don't why not?
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« Reply #1: December 14, 2008, 04:00:48 pm »

ie Greek Pagans/ Hellenists, Heathens/Asatruar, Egyptian/Kemetic, etc etc. ...

Do you worship and/or honor ALL deities in your "chosen" pantheon, only specific ones you feel called to, or ?

and ...

Why? If you worship/honor all deities do you feel it is an obligation, or an important aspect of your path?  If you don't why not?

The ancient Egyptians as I recall had about 3,000 deities listed and the ritual for one god took hours to do, so no. 

Also every temple, city and different state gods were different throughout history.  Every town had their own temple and worshiped their own gods. 

Today, many Kemetics as far as I know, worship only the deities they feel they have a personal call to or resonate with or a deity that has "thwapped" them. 



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« Reply #2: December 14, 2008, 04:07:23 pm »

Do you worship and/or honor ALL deities in your "chosen" pantheon, only specific ones you feel called to, or ?

Yes.  Or maybe no.

See, here's the thing: with a couple of thousand gods, there's no time to give personal attention to everyone, not even on one day a year.

But.

I don't have a specific calling to Bast.  At the same time, I recognise that She is a protector of households (not just households with cats in them!), and thus when I wish to petition a deity to protect my home and family, I go to Her.  (In practice, I go to Her and Brighid, because my Celt isn't allowed to play with the Netjeru unsupervised.)

When I needed to survive a situation that felt like being ripped to pieces, I went to Wesir, who I have less personal connection with than Bast (by which I mean "none at all that I've been able to perceive").

When I pour water for the gods, unless I am specifically doing ritual to reach to a specific deity or set of them, I pour it for all the gods.
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« Reply #3: December 14, 2008, 04:33:46 pm »

ie Greek Pagans/ Hellenists, Heathens/Asatruar, Egyptian/Kemetic, etc etc. ...

Do you worship and/or honor ALL deities in your "chosen" pantheon, only specific ones you feel called to, or ?

and ...

Why? If you worship/honor all deities do you feel it is an obligation, or an important aspect of your path?  If you don't why not?

I honor all of Them in the sense that when I make sacrifices, I am making them to all the deities. When I participate in a particular ritual, such as Imbolc, I am honoring a particular deity, in this case, Brighid. However, when I speak of honoring my deities, I mean the Ones who called to me: Cernunnos and Rhiannon (and yes, I realize that He is Gaulish and She is Welsh. But when you are called by a particular God/dess you just don't say no. Or I don't, anyway).  If there is a particular situation/problem that I need help with, I will petition a particular deity for help. Sometimes if the situation is a dire one, I will just call out to the God/desses in general, to Whomever can help me.

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« Reply #4: December 14, 2008, 05:27:31 pm »

Do you worship and/or honor ALL deities in your "chosen" pantheon, only specific ones you feel called to, or ?

Yes, all of the Hellenic deities deserve and get worship. However, I favor those who I am called to or whose aid I need at the moment.

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Why? If you worship/honor all deities do you feel it is an obligation, or an important aspect of your path?  If you don't why not?

Ignoring Hellenic deities in favor of one or two is not a good idea. The other deities can feel slighted and get testy.
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« Reply #5: December 14, 2008, 06:05:16 pm »

ie Greek Pagans/ Hellenists, Heathens/Asatruar, Egyptian/Kemetic, etc etc. ...

Do you worship and/or honor ALL deities in your "chosen" pantheon, only specific ones you feel called to, or ?

and ...

Why? If you worship/honor all deities do you feel it is an obligation, or an important aspect of your path?  If you don't why not?


I honor Them all, though there are some I honor more often than others. Eos, Helios, Hestia, and Hermes receive sacrifices from me on most days.

Another deity, whose holy day or festival day it may be, or whom I feel particularly grateful to, will also receive due sacrifice when I honor the aforementioned four deities.

All the Deathless Ones must exist, in my religious worldview, in order for the Universe to exist as we know it. Therefore, I believe that They are all more than worthy of my devotion.
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« Reply #6: December 14, 2008, 06:48:37 pm »

I don't have a specific calling to Bast.  At the same time, I recognise that She is a protector of households (not just households with cats in them!), and thus when I wish to petition a deity to protect my home and family, I go to Her.  (In practice, I go to Her and Brighid, because my Celt isn't allowed to play with the Netjeru unsupervised.)

When I needed to survive a situation that felt like being ripped to pieces, I went to Wesir, who I have less personal connection with than Bast (by which I mean "none at all that I've been able to perceive").

Interesting.  So, because of your ..."attachment"... to the pantheon, for lack of a better term, you're more comfortable approaching deities you may otherwise feel no specific connection with when faced with situations/areas of influence they understand?
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« Reply #7: December 14, 2008, 06:49:09 pm »


Ignoring Hellenic deities in favor of one or two is not a good idea. The other deities can feel slighted and get testy.

Is that UPG, or otherwise?
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« Reply #8: December 14, 2008, 06:50:07 pm »


All the Deathless Ones must exist, in my religious worldview, in order for the Universe to exist as we know it. Therefore, I believe that They are all more than worthy of my devotion.

Now, do you feel the same way (that they must exist) w/r/t deities of other pantheons?

Where do you draw the line and why?
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« Reply #9: December 14, 2008, 07:14:53 pm »

Do you worship and/or honor ALL deities in your "chosen" pantheon, only specific ones you feel called to, or ?

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Why? If you worship/honor all deities do you feel it is an obligation, or an important aspect of your path?  If you don't why not?
You know, I think honoring everyone is something I need to do more of, for sure. I always complain about not having the time to worship as I would want, so therefore Odin tends to take up all my thought.

Why do I feel that's necessary? Good question... I think it's important to get the "full experience"? Like... you might have a favorite Power Ranger to play with, but you really need the full set to put that Ranger in context and to complement that one. (Yes, I was a 90's child!) I mean... why would you only have one Power Ranger? lol. Smiley
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« Reply #10: December 14, 2008, 07:17:11 pm »

Is that UPG, or otherwise?

Otherwise; the historic literature is full of gods who get pissed off when ignored. My favorite example is Euripides' Hippolytus.

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« Reply #11: December 14, 2008, 07:21:00 pm »

You know, I think honoring everyone is something I need to do more of, for sure. I always complain about not having the time to worship as I would want, so therefore Odin tends to take up all my thought.

Why do I feel that's necessary? Good question... I think it's important to get the "full experience"? Like... you might have a favorite Power Ranger to play with, but you really need the full set to put that Ranger in context and to complement that one. (Yes, I was a 90's child!) I mean... why would you only have one Power Ranger? lol. Smiley

lmao I can relate to that...although with all the She-Ra girls rather than Power Rangers.  Cheesy

So you feel you get a richer religious/spiritual experience by honoring the whole pantheon?  I guess that should be obvious, definitely makes sense...
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« Reply #12: December 14, 2008, 07:21:17 pm »

Otherwise; the historic literature is full of gods who get pissed off when ignored. My favorite example is Euripides' Hippolytus.

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Thanks for the ref, will look into it.
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« Reply #13: December 14, 2008, 07:30:02 pm »

lmao I can relate to that...although with all the She-Ra girls rather than Power Rangers.  Cheesy
Glad my silly analogy makes sense!

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Yes, I do think that. I guess I don't really know why you would exclusively worship only one or two deities when they're part of a pantheon. By honoring gods in a pantheon at all I think that says you are polytheistic in the first place, so why practice monotheistically.
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« Reply #14: December 14, 2008, 07:39:08 pm »


Yes, I do think that. I guess I don't really know why you would exclusively worship only one or two deities when they're part of a pantheon. By honoring gods in a pantheon at all I think that says you are polytheistic in the first place, so why practice monotheistically.

I don't know, I'm still sort of "feeling things out" in various areas.  If you are called by a deity/deities, you would specifically honor them.  See, to me polytheism vs. monotheism is more about the belief than the practice.  IE, I believe they all exist, I just worship Q, X, and T, and sometimes F. Or I only worship J but believe in G-M. And so-forth.

Also, what if you are called by deities from different pantheons?  And here I will begin to derail my own thread, haha! But I guess then you wouldn't be following a specific pantheon.  ... idk, just thinking out loud here.
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