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« Topic Start: January 07, 2009, 06:36:25 pm »

In another thread, the Jewish God was discussed and epithets were brought up. 

So what are the various epithets of the Jewish God--masculine, feminine and neutral?  How do Jews understand these epithets?  Do they reflect different natures of God? 

(And I hope I'm not offending by spelling out the word God). 

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« Reply #1: January 07, 2009, 07:06:30 pm »

In another thread, the Jewish God was discussed and epithets were brought up. 

So what are the various epithets of the Jewish God--masculine, feminine and neutral?  How do Jews understand these epithets?  Do they reflect different natures of God? 

(And I hope I'm not offending by spelling out the word God). 



I very much understand that Speran will be able to answer this question much better than I will be able to.  In your last question you ask if they reflect different natures of God? and (I think from what I got from the other thread and other people I asked) the answer is yes.  It reflect his different sides. 

I was told by a Jew from another forum that when for example God brings the plagues on Egypt he is referred to in the Masculine, and when he is dwelling among the Jews and such he is referred to in the Feminine way.
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« Reply #2: January 07, 2009, 07:12:48 pm »

I very much understand that Speran will be able to answer this question much better than I will be able to.  In your last question you ask if they reflect different natures of God? and (I think from what I got from the other thread and other people I asked) the answer is yes.  It reflect his different sides. 

I was told by a Jew from another forum that when for example God brings the plagues on Egypt he is referred to in the Masculine, and when he is dwelling among the Jews and such he is referred to in the Feminine way.

So wait - you know that, and yet you argued in the other thread that God is always seen as male?

I'm VERY confused.  And feeling rather insulted - you knowingly argued a point that you have evidence is wrong?
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« Reply #3: January 07, 2009, 07:14:58 pm »

So wait - you know that, and yet you argued in the other thread that God is always seen as male?

I'm VERY confused.  And feeling rather insulted - you knowingly argued a point that you have evidence is wrong?

No you got it wrong... I argued what I "thought" was true.  I discussed it with you guys, I discussed it with my very knowledgeable Christian friends and my Chabad Jewish acquaintances. It turns out I was wrong in my belief, and was shooting in the dark, I am sorry if I meant offense.
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« Reply #4: January 07, 2009, 09:43:20 pm »

No you got it wrong... I argued what I "thought" was true.  I discussed it with you guys, I discussed it with my very knowledgeable Christian friends and my Chabad Jewish acquaintances. It turns out I was wrong in my belief, and was shooting in the dark, I am sorry if I meant offense.

It would have helped a LOT had you actually admitted you were wrong in the thread in question, instead of abandoning it and suddenly positing the exact opposite view.

Admitting wrong is how we grow.  Just suddenly turning around and claiming the opposite is incredibly annoying - it feels like you're playing with us.  If that's not what you're doing, PLEASE, admit it when you find something out that changes your mind.
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« Reply #5: January 08, 2009, 12:54:06 pm »

In another thread, the Jewish God was discussed and epithets were brought up. 

So what are the various epithets of the Jewish God--masculine, feminine and neutral?  How do Jews understand these epithets?  Do they reflect different natures of God? 

(And I hope I'm not offending by spelling out the word God). 



Oh wow, this is a great topic, but an IMMENSE topic.  There are thousands of scholarly works regarding the varying names of God.  I will try to think of a way to put this in manageable chunks for discussion purposes.  If Koi is looking in, I'm sure she can add to the conversation.

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« Reply #6: February 20, 2009, 07:05:40 am »



As for me, myself, and I... Here's what I think/believe... Do note, this contains UPG...

I believe that God in and of Himself is Father of All. The Holy Ghost is the Mother and the Union of Unconditional Love between the Father and the Son. The Son is the Result of the Sexual Union of Unconditional Love between the Father and the Holy Ghost (Mother). To me Mary was a willing vessel that God allowed the Mother (Holy Ghost) to bestow the Grace upon Mary to conceive the Son in the flesh. Upon this act the Union of the Father and Mother became evident and created the seed, which was the Son whom already existed from the beginning of Eternity with the Mother and the Father, within Mary. Thus empowering Mary full of grace/highly favored and bringing forth the Fruit of the Union between the Mother and Father.

Since all Three are One yet Three Distinct Persons, it would suffice for me to say that I believe that God is Mother and Father. There is no doubt in my mind that the Holy Trinity is completely balanced and contains equality between Masculine and Feminine principles/characteristics/etc.
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« Reply #7: February 21, 2009, 04:49:28 pm »

As for me, myself, and I... Here's what I think/believe... Do note, this contains UPG...

I believe that God in and of Himself is Father of All. The Holy Ghost is the Mother and the Union of Unconditional Love between the Father and the Son. The Son is the Result of the Sexual Union of Unconditional Love between the Father and the Holy Ghost (Mother). To me Mary was a willing vessel that God allowed the Mother (Holy Ghost) to bestow the Grace upon Mary to conceive the Son in the flesh.

What does this have to do with the epithets of the Jewish (non-Trinitarian) God? 
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« Reply #8: June 12, 2009, 09:45:33 am »

The most common of the originally appellative names of God is Elohim (), plural in form though commonly construed with a singular verb or adjective. This is, most probably, to be explained as the plural of majesty or excellence, expressing high dignity or greatness: comp. the similar use of plurals of "ba'al" (master) and "adon" (lord). In Ethiopic, Amlak ("lords") is the common name for God. The singular, Eloah (), is comparatively rare, occurring only in poetry and late prose (in Job, 41 times). The same divine name is found in Arabic (ilah) and in Aramaic (elah). The singular is used in six places for heathen deities (II Chron. xxxii. 15; Dan. xi. 37, 38; etc.); and the plural also, a few times, either for gods or images (Ex. ix. 1, xii. 12, xx. 3; etc.) or for one god (Ex. xxxii. 1; Gen. xxxi. 30, 32; etc.). In the great majority of cases both are used as names of the one God of Israel.
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« Reply #9: June 12, 2009, 09:48:58 am »

The most common of the originally appellative names of God is Elohim (), plural in form though commonly construed with a singular verb or adjective. This is, most probably, to be explained as the plural of majesty or excellence, expressing high dignity or greatness: comp. the similar use of plurals of "ba'al" (master) and "adon" (lord). In Ethiopic, Amlak ("lords") is the common name for God. The singular, Eloah (), is comparatively rare, occurring only in poetry and late prose (in Job, 41 times). The same divine name is found in Arabic (ilah) and in Aramaic (elah). The singular is used in six places for heathen deities (II Chron. xxxii. 15; Dan. xi. 37, 38; etc.); and the plural also, a few times, either for gods or images (Ex. ix. 1, xii. 12, xx. 3; etc.) or for one god (Ex. xxxii. 1; Gen. xxxi. 30, 32; etc.). In the great majority of cases both are used as names of the one God of Israel.

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