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« Topic Start: January 10, 2009, 11:43:04 am »

The Hosts would like to remind all TC members and readers that The Cauldron: A Pagan Forum is a DEBATE AND DISCUSSION MESSAGE BOARD. If you post an opinion or fact and people disagree with you or point out factual errors in your statement, please do not say something like "I don't want to debate this, it's just my opinion" or "Debating religious stuff is never productive so I don't want to." 

If you aren't interested in debate and discussion, please don't post things that are likely to provoke others to debate with you. (This may mean you want to avoid posting certain areas of the message board entirely -- for example, the News and Politics boards -- if you wish to avoid being drawn into debate or heated discussion.)  Also, remember that broad generalizations are likely to be factually incorrect and hence provoke challenges. "All large group X believe Y" is seldom true. Such claims will almost always be strongly challenged while statements like "The members of large group X I've met all believe Y" is less likely to provoke a strong challenge.

We cannot stress enough that "It's just my opinion" is not a way to avoid discussions of factual claims.  For example, if you say "The sun rises in the west and sets in the east" and someone points out that this is factually incorrect, saying "it's just my opinion" will not stop people from arguing with you over the factual errors. Please do not expect it to do so.

Finally, if you are uncomfortable with ideas being discussed and even challenged, this may not be the message board for you. There are many Pagan "fellowship" boards on the Net where debate is discouraged. If so, you might be more happy on such a board. There is certainly nothing wrong with this. Different strokes for different folks, after all.
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« Reply #1: January 10, 2009, 06:44:43 pm »



In the interests of helping those who are unclear on the differences between debating and less civil forms of interaction that occaisionally get mistaken for it, I found the following article that seems to me to be worth a read. YMMV.

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     Among the greatest problems faced in a public forum is how
participants may disagree without descending into either personal
attacks or not-so-witty one line repartee.  There are certain "rules
of engagement," if you will, which can prevent name-calling and other
debate no-nos.

     But first, we must dispel the myth that polite equals namby-
pamby.  In fact, it is possible to disagree--even to disagree
significantly--in civil manner.  Disagreement is never *comfortable*,
but if we refrain from permitting it to become a war (or on the
internet, a flamewar) we might learn something and keep our blood
pressure down at the same time.  Disagreement can be fruitful.  But it
will be fruitful only so long as certain guidelines are followed.

It can be found in full at http://trekiverse.us/FAQs/Debate.txt and is quite an interesting read for anyone who hasn't been involved in formal debate at some point. It particularly helps with understanding how a debate differs from a fight/public roasting.
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« Reply #2: January 10, 2009, 10:05:43 pm »

It can be found in full at http://trekiverse.us/FAQs/Debate.txt and is quite an interesting read for anyone who hasn't been involved in formal debate at some point. It particularly helps with understanding how a debate differs from a fight/public roasting.

That's an excellent article!  Thanks for posting the link.
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« Reply #3: January 11, 2009, 10:57:28 am »

It can be found in full at http://trekiverse.us/FAQs/Debate.txt and is quite an interesting read for anyone who hasn't been involved in formal debate at some point. It particularly helps with understanding how a debate differs from a fight/public roasting.

Thanks for posting this!  I can see that as of late I probaly have been a little too blunt causing others to take offense.
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