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« Reply #45: February 04, 2009, 12:11:40 pm »

A large number of messages about why TC Hosts and Staff prefer double posting to multiple replies in one message moved to a new thread here: Why We Allow Double Posting.  There is no reason for this thread on New Age to be derailed by this discussion.
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« Reply #46: February 12, 2009, 01:41:25 pm »

As a follow up question: Maybe it's just me, but has anyone ever been afraid of or extremely cautious of voicing something because you wondered if others may judge you as a 'new ager' or 'fluffy' for it?

When I was new to TC (and to Paganism) all this talk about 'fluffies' and 'new age' made me feel a bit uneasy because I couldn't figure out what a 'new ager' and a 'fluffy bunny' is, so I didn't know what to avoid and thought people would throw stones at me for any stupid thing I say. (I'm grateful many people have proved to be much more patient with newbie-me than I've hoped.  Grin )
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« Reply #47: February 12, 2009, 07:27:57 pm »

As a follow up question: Maybe it's just me, but has anyone ever been afraid of or extremely cautious of voicing something because you wondered if others may judge you as a 'new ager' or 'fluffy' for it?

Yes. A lot of what I believe is based in science that has been in part appropriated by psuedo-sciences and what I consider to be the over-commercialised (and so inherantly fluffy Wink) end of 'new age'. It does worry me at times and I do monitor what I say in company that I respect intellectually with it in mind. Then again, I can be far too sensitive to the opinions and emotions of others.
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« Reply #48: February 13, 2009, 09:28:05 am »

Yes. A lot of what I believe is based in science that has been in part appropriated by psuedo-sciences and what I consider to be the over-commercialised (and so inherantly fluffy Wink) end of 'new age'. It does worry me at times and I do monitor what I say in company that I respect intellectually with it in mind. Then again, I can be far too sensitive to the opinions and emotions of others.

I think that awareness of your own sensitivity is very important. And so I don't offer much in the way of opinions, here or elsewhere, about other peoples' beliefs, unless I'm quite sure that the other person is on the same page as me, or not too far off, or is genuinely interested in what I have to say. This doesn't have to preclude a good discussion, but it does make trying to communicate with people who are feeling insecure in some way about what they believe feel a bit safer. People don't learn new things very well if they don't feel safe with the people they are talking to. But they don't learn at all when they are not challenged. There is always a balance to be struck.
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« Reply #49: March 19, 2009, 12:07:18 am »

As a follow up question: Maybe it's just me, but has anyone ever been afraid of or extremely cautious of voicing something because you wondered if others may judge you as a 'new ager' or 'fluffy' for it?

Absolutely, I was actually really glad to see this thread. I came to Paganism via some New Age ideas. It was a vital part of my path, and without those ideas I would still be dogmatic, conservative Christian. Thank goodness for those things that started my paradigm shifts!

I still find some beliefs to be similar to some Pagan ideas, TBH, so it's confusing sometimes to hear New Age beliefs automatically dismissed in Pagan circles. And then you run into the dichotomy of New Age = all light, all the time; and Pagan = all dark, all the time. Neither is an accurate representation. (Using Pagan in a purposely general way, since I bet if you talked to self-identified New Agers, they'd make that leap. Just like many Pagans seem to make the leap to *empty sparkle fluff* when they hear NA.)

Granted, some NAers make it difficult not to. I've been surrounded by some NA ideas and am part of a great NA based community online, and some of their ideas are too woo woo for words. And the continual selling of things is irksome. It almost gets to seeming exploitative - like the evangelical Christians on late night tv saying "Send us your money and the Lord will bless you!"  "Buy these special crystals and you'll find relief from chronic pain!" It's over-simplified to the point of being a lie.

I'm pretty comfortable with the NAish beliefs that still resonate as true for me, and also very comfortable seeing them in the framework of my Pagan beliefs... and comfortable not holding others at all. I don't begrudge anyone else their Lemurian guides, but it's just not for me.  Wink

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« Reply #50: March 19, 2009, 08:45:24 am »

I've been surrounded by some NA ideas and am part of a great NA based community online, and some of their ideas are too woo woo for words.

Where is this "great NA based community online"? I'd love to have one to refer people too. Some friends of mine run one, but it isn't very active.
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« Reply #51: March 19, 2009, 10:13:45 am »

Where is this "great NA based community online"? I'd love to have one to refer people too. Some friends of mine run one, but it isn't very active.

It's a women's forum, with emphasis on "the Law of Attraction." http://www.wisewaysofwomen.com/
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« Reply #52: March 19, 2009, 06:48:31 pm »

It's a women's forum, with emphasis on "the Law of Attraction." http://www.wisewaysofwomen.com/

Unfortunately, the posts on the forums are available for pulic viewing at this site. Do you have any other references that are more accessable that you are able to share?
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« Reply #53: March 19, 2009, 07:19:29 pm »

Unfortunately, the posts on the forums are available for pulic viewing at this site. Do you have any other references that are more accessable that you are able to share?

Sorry, do you mean they're not available for public viewing? I think the privacy of it is something appreciated in that particular forum; I just took it for granted. I don't know of any others, I found that one by the invitation of a friend. Sorry!
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« Reply #54: March 19, 2009, 07:25:29 pm »

Sorry, do you mean they're not available for public viewing?

Sorry about that. Yeah I did mean not available; put it down to inadequate coffeee supply and jetlag Wink
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« Reply #55: March 19, 2009, 07:28:21 pm »

Sorry about that. Yeah I did mean not available; put it down to inadequate coffeee supply and jetlag Wink

LOL No problem... I've got four kids ages 6 and under so basically you could tell me that it was my fault somehow and I'd believe you. I used to be brainy... now I'm just surviving!  Cheesy
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« Reply #56: March 19, 2009, 10:57:28 pm »

I've got four kids ages 6 and under
My SIL did that.  My two oldest are three years apart.  She had her oldest three weeks after me, her third four months before I had my second, and just over a year later had her fourth. 

I don't care if you're a Mensa member, four kids under the age of six, you can't think straight most of the time.  Four kids, period, can do that.  I spread my crew out, but there were times when they were all home when I swore my brain had turned into Silly Putty. 

It does get better.

Then perimenopause hits and you're back where you were before.   Tongue
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« Reply #57: March 21, 2009, 12:44:11 pm »



Then perimenopause hits and you're back where you were before.   Tongue


and what a thrill that is when you've got an adolescent daughter going through the exact same hormone insanity from the other direction! wheeee!!
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« Reply #58: March 21, 2009, 01:59:59 pm »

and what a thrill that is when you've got an adolescent daughter going through the exact same hormone insanity from the other direction! wheeee!!

Try three of them!  One at the beginning of puberty, one in the last stages of it and one closing in on the end.  The older girls should finish up puberty just about the time I really get into the swing of things.

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« Reply #59: March 21, 2009, 02:38:58 pm »


I'll split the difference with you. Two almost-12yo's, one of whom's already begun her menses, the other of whom shows no signs yet (she's significantly slower in her physical development--my DD's in a 36C, she doesn't even need a trainer yet), and me having just started the peri thing.

The 8yo has time, yet. That'll give the sweetie a chance to build that treehouse (that's NOT for the kids).
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