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« Topic Start: February 15, 2009, 05:27:44 pm »

Do you feel your magic is something that comes mostly from within yourself, or mostly from external sources? For example; crystals, herbs, candles etc.

If you feel as though it is from both, like I do, where do you predominatly draw your magical energy from? Internally, or externally?



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« Reply #1: February 15, 2009, 05:41:11 pm »

Do you feel your magic is something that comes mostly from within yourself, or mostly from external sources? For example; crystals, herbs, candles etc.

If you feel as though it is from both, like I do, where do you predominatly draw your magical energy from? Internally, or externally?

If feel that magic comes through me from everything.  Specific things, such as herbs, have energies that are specific to them, which can make directing easier, but the bulk of the energy is drawn from earth, sea and sky, through myself and then off to do its work.
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« Reply #2: February 15, 2009, 08:29:19 pm »

Do you feel your magic is something that comes mostly from within yourself, or mostly from external sources? For example; crystals, herbs, candles etc.

If you feel as though it is from both, like I do, where do you predominatly draw your magical energy from? Internally, or externally?

I think it's both. It has to move around, otherwise it gets stagnant and icky (that's a technical term).
I don't like to draw from something other than myself, even if I ask beforehand, in case whatever it is needs the energy later (Or right now, but only said yes out of politeness. So I never draw from the earth unless it tells me to.)
Drawing magic 'through' something else to change it's flavour is fine, though.
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« Reply #3: February 15, 2009, 10:29:56 pm »

Do you feel your magic is something that comes mostly from within yourself, or mostly from external sources? For example; crystals, herbs, candles etc.

Magic comes from my Will. I can use energy from myself or from elsewhere to power magic. Generally, I prefer external sources. Wink
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« Reply #4: February 15, 2009, 11:05:54 pm »

Do you feel your magic is something that comes mostly from within yourself, or mostly from external sources? For example; crystals, herbs, candles etc.

If you feel as though it is from both, like I do, where do you predominatly draw your magical energy from? Internally, or externally?





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« Reply #5: February 16, 2009, 09:27:09 am »

I think it's both. It has to move around, otherwise it gets stagnant and icky (that's a technical term).
I don't like to draw from something other than myself, even if I ask beforehand, in case whatever it is needs the energy later (Or right now, but only said yes out of politeness. So I never draw from the earth unless it tells me to.)
Drawing magic 'through' something else to change it's flavour is fine, though.
I tend to agree with this.

Magic or Energy itself is all around, it flows in and through everything. I prefer to use my Will and my internal reserves for any magic I work. Although, when I do work with energy, it seems to come from all around me, but it may be energy from the Earth or Universe that is filtering through the things around me.
(disclaimer: I don't do much spell work, but I do work with energies)
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« Reply #6: February 16, 2009, 11:50:10 am »

Like some others have already said, I feel like the bigger energy comes from eternal sources like the earth or sky, but I'm the central point making it move like the axis of a wheel. It makes the vehicle move without touching the ground. I wonder though if some of the energies going through me are kind of flavored by me, sort of.
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« Reply #7: February 16, 2009, 11:54:00 am »

I wonder though if some of the energies going through me are kind of flavored by me, sort of.

Like pouring water over tea leaves.  An infusion of you in the magic. 

That's rather how I see it. 

I'm a magical teabag.   Tongue  That's a funny thought.
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« Reply #8: February 16, 2009, 12:06:38 pm »


Like some others have already said, I feel like the bigger energy comes from eternal sources like the earth or sky, but I'm the central point making it move like the axis of a wheel. It makes the vehicle move without touching the ground. I wonder though if some of the energies going through me are kind of flavored by me, sort of.

how can they not be flavored by you? What would be the point, otherwise? This is also why I go to different deities for different purposes, but always rely primarily on Maa. She's like salt to me, you might say.
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« Reply #9: February 16, 2009, 12:08:16 pm »

Like pouring water over tea leaves.  An infusion of you in the magic. 

That's rather how I see it. 

I'm a magical teabag.   Tongue  That's a funny thought.
Hmm...maybe kind of, but I hope we don't drain out. That's why I used the wheel-symbolism. The central point isn't moving much - like the calm eye of a storm.
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« Reply #10: February 16, 2009, 12:20:00 pm »

Hmm...maybe kind of, but I hope we don't drain out. That's why I used the wheel-symbolism. The central point isn't moving much - like the calm eye of a storm.

When magical energy moves through us, if we are properly trained, prepared and clear in our intent, we give up some of ourselves to the energy flow while it leaves energy behind.  An exchange, if you will.

The tea analogy:  You put the tea into the boiling water and it gives up some of its essence to the water, right?  But at the same time the water goes into the leaves, replacing what they've given to the water.  In fact, the leaves will proportionately gain more in the exchange, as the water will rehydrate them, while the water only gains a comparatively small amount in exchange. 

When we draw magic through us, we give up some of our personal energy to the flow, while it recharges us.  If we've had sufficient training in energy work, that is.  I well recall the early days of magical practice, before I learned to let energy flow this way.  I'd use my personal energy and try not to use anything from my surroundings, even when it was clearly offered.  I'd end up wiped out after.  Once I learned to let the energy flow through myself I found that after I felt recharged, with more energy than I'd had when I began the working. 

Mom always said that this was because the energy flowing through you WANTS to give to you, wants to recharge you. 
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« Reply #11: February 16, 2009, 12:31:51 pm »

Thanks for the explanation, get the analogy much better now. First it sounded to me like the essence would drain out like you can't use the same tea leaves twice and thrice...

But about the calm center...isn't a part still anchored to earth? Like the tea bag being hold by a thread so it's not flodded away from the water pour? That I meant with the eye of the storm. Isn't a part unparticipating in the exchange?  Huh
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« Reply #12: February 16, 2009, 12:44:08 pm »

Thanks for the explanation, get the analogy much better now. First it sounded to me like the essence would drain out like you can't use the same tea leaves twice and thrice...

But about the calm center...isn't a part still anchored to earth? Like the tea bag being hold by a thread so it's not flodded away from the water pour? That I meant with the eye of the storm. Isn't a part unparticipating in the exchange?  Huh

The quintessential you remains unchanged.  And the energy that you take in will in short time become yours fully, taking on your essence.

You can't use tea leaves over and over again, because they've been cut from the plant and are no longer able to regenerate their essence.  You, on the other hand, are alive.
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« Reply #13: February 17, 2009, 12:10:55 am »

Do you feel your magic is something that comes mostly from within yourself, or mostly from external sources? For example; crystals, herbs, candles etc.

If you feel as though it is from both, like I do, where do you predominatly draw your magical energy from? Internally, or externally?

I feel that my magic is from within me. The herbs, candles, crystals and such are tools that I use to enhance my magic. I do believe that they have an energy of their own, and it adds to mine.

I draw my magical energy from within myself, but I draw energy in general from both the earth and from water. One feeds the other, as I se it.
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« Reply #14: February 17, 2009, 10:28:50 am »

Like some others have already said, I feel like the bigger energy comes from eternal sources like the earth or sky, but I'm the central point making it move like the axis of a wheel.

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