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« Topic Start: February 27, 2009, 10:51:43 pm »

I've read in various sources that Brighid is associated (by some, anyway  Undecided ) with divination.  My assumption is that this association is related to Her connection to poetry and wisdom.

I'm wondering how others feel about this idea, especially those who have a connection of some kind with Brighid.  Do you have any experience with Brighid and divination?  Any feelings of whether Brighid gets involved in or encourages divination?  Any particular kind of divination?  Any feelings about whether this association is correct or just another example of poor research allowing people to glom whatever they want onto Brighid's image?

(We might have discussed this at some time in the past, but I can't find a thread.)
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« Reply #1: February 28, 2009, 09:01:25 am »

I'm wondering how others feel about this idea, especially those who have a connection of some kind with Brighid.  Do you have any experience with Brighid and divination?  Any feelings of whether Brighid gets involved in or encourages divination?  Any particular kind of divination?  Any feelings about whether this association is correct or just another example of poor research allowing people to glom whatever they want onto Brighid's image?
She doesn't (or I'm not aware of it if she does) involve herself in my divination.  This could well be for no more reason than others among those I work with being more associated with the art, or even just because I've never asked her to.

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« Reply #2: February 28, 2009, 09:03:33 am »

She doesn't (or I'm not aware of it if she does) involve herself in my divination.  This could well be for no more reason than others among those I work with being more associated with the art, or even just because I've never asked her to.

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I've had the same experience, or lack thereof.  She's never really seemed interested in my divination.  My writing, that's another story.
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« Reply #3: February 28, 2009, 10:18:39 pm »

I've read in various sources that Brighid is associated (by some, anyway  Undecided ) with divination.  My assumption is that this association is related to Her connection to poetry and wisdom.

I've never got that feeling from Her, but I could see the connection if we were speaking of something like scrying in a well.  I suppose that would be more circumstantial than anything else.
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« Reply #4: February 28, 2009, 10:24:26 pm »

I've read in various sources that Brighid is associated (by some, anyway  Undecided ) with divination.  My assumption is that this association is related to Her connection to poetry and wisdom.

I'm wondering how others feel about this idea, especially those who have a connection of some kind with Brighid.  Do you have any experience with Brighid and divination?  Any feelings of whether Brighid gets involved in or encourages divination?  Any particular kind of divination?  Any feelings about whether this association is correct or just another example of poor research allowing people to glom whatever they want onto Brighid's image?

I think I remember seeing this association somewhere, though I can't remember whom exactly said so.

As far as I can tell, Brighid doesn't directly do anything in my own divination work--when I do divination, the communication I receive from it seems to have its source in energies or currents that are... to the left of Brighid. What I mean is, those currents run different courses than Brighid's communication with me--parallel courses, perhaps, but different.

However, I have found that sometimes when I ask for her aid in clarity of reading my ogam feda, I find things to be more relaxed and generally more obvious. Then again, I feel like ogam is the one divination that I've really connected with and have really "gotten", even after all these years of trying to read tarot.

But Brighid's role, in my work, is in the interpretation, in what may even be the poetry or meaning of the reading, rather than the manipulation/interaction with/encouragement of the actual divination. She help me I ask for clarity or eloquence in understanding anything I'm reading or what I'm trying to write.

Though, I must admit, I can't help but wonder if she's asking Ogma to help out a little with all of the above...  Undecided
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« Reply #5: February 28, 2009, 11:45:48 pm »

I've read in various sources that Brighid is associated (by some, anyway  Undecided ) with divination.  My assumption is that this association is related to Her connection to poetry and wisdom.

I'm wondering how others feel about this idea, especially those who have a connection of some kind with Brighid.  Do you have any experience with Brighid and divination?  Any feelings of whether Brighid gets involved in or encourages divination?  Any particular kind of divination?  Any feelings about whether this association is correct or just another example of poor research allowing people to glom whatever they want onto Brighid's image?
In my own experience, she has never really shown up or been interested in any of my divination work. I have also read though that she is sometimes associated with it, like you have, but looking at the myths and stories about her, I can't see where it comes from.
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« Reply #6: March 01, 2009, 12:51:28 am »

I have also read though that she is sometimes associated with it, like you have, but looking at the myths and stories about her, I can't see where it comes from.

I *think* it might come from the idea that "seeing" is a type of wisdom, and the concept of "wisdom" is tied up with the Celtic understanding of poets and poetry.  But that's just my conjecture.

Follow-up question for whoever wants to answer:  If Brighid is not a "patron" of your divination, have you found that She speaks to you through your divination?
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« Reply #7: March 01, 2009, 08:48:44 am »

Follow-up question for whoever wants to answer:  If Brighid is not a "patron" of your divination, have you found that She speaks to you through your divination?

Yes, definitely--usually in a more subtle way than when she speaks to me directly. But most of the time I ask Her directly anyway to see what she means, and double check that I'm reading things correctly.
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« Reply #8: March 03, 2009, 08:20:03 pm »

I'm wondering how others feel about this idea, especially those who have a connection of some kind with Brighid. 

I'm not really feeling her as a divination deity. For the Irish, that would probably be Ogma. I read Tarot cards... I don't sense any disapproval from Her, but it seems to be something she doesn't really want to get involved with, with me. She and I connect on a writing and an herbalism level.

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« Reply #9: March 03, 2009, 10:39:13 pm »

I'm not really feeling her as a divination deity. For the Irish, that would probably be Ogma. I read Tarot cards... I don't sense any disapproval from Her, but it seems to be something she doesn't really want to get involved with, with me.

It's interesting that so many people (here, anyway) don't sense Brighid's involvement in their divination.  I wonder where the idea came from originally.  Somebody's UPG, I'm sure, but I've seen it multiple times.
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« Reply #10: March 03, 2009, 10:54:19 pm »

It's interesting that so many people (here, anyway) don't sense Brighid's involvement in their divination.  I wonder where the idea came from originally.  Somebody's UPG, I'm sure, but I've seen it multiple times.

Maybe it's because most people use methods like tarot cards and runes which are not Irish?  Perhaps the feeling would be more predominate with bird aurgary (sp? Yikes!), Ogham (which is more for the Creator than She), or perhaps water scrying (I don't know it's origin, but it may be adapted by the Irish)?  I don't know.  I really don't think She would be interested in Divination.  She's more interested in Her specific areas, I think.  Do I dare speak for a Goddess?  Smiley
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« Reply #11: March 03, 2009, 10:55:19 pm »

Maybe it's because most people use methods like tarot cards and runes which are not Irish? 

I don't think She would object to aiding someone in fire scrying, though.
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« Reply #12: March 03, 2009, 11:14:06 pm »

I really don't think She would be interested in Divination.  She's more interested in Her specific areas, I think.

I have a somewhat different opinion.  I *think* divination could easily fall under Brighid's purview as an aspect of "poetry".  That requires a definition of "poetry" that is broader than simply written or spoken poems/stories.  I think (and, again, this is just my meanderings and UPG) that a traditionally Celtic take on "poetry" would include the general areas of wisdom and learning, and "wisdom/learning" would include understandings gained through divination.

But I'll be the first to admit that I tend to see Brighid's areas of influence more broadly than others might.   Cheesy 

And, in addition, one of the reasons I asked the question in the first place is because I'm feeling a pull towards working with a couple of divination methods again.  I'm pretty sure that's coming from Her.  Of course, that in itself doesn't mean Brighid is especially involved in divination, in general.  It could well be just a "me" thing.

Which raises another question for me:  Do you (the general you, for anyone who wants to answer) see divination as a type of magic?  Or as something else?
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« Reply #13: March 03, 2009, 11:38:48 pm »

Which raises another question for me:  Do you (the general you, for anyone who wants to answer) see divination as a type of magic?  Or as something else?

I sometimes use my cards for magic, but it's not divination anymore.  Deliberately picking cards and spread to describe what it is I want is an attempt to cause, rather than predict.

It works, mind.  It's just not divination any more.

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It works, mind.  It's just not divination any more.


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