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« Topic Start: April 24, 2007, 09:14:21 am »

From The Guardian via a friend's blog:

'I felt more welcome in the Bible belt'

Manal Omar had used her five-piece 'Islamic-style' swimsuit for years - in Rio, Washington and Kuala Lumpur - and it had never brought her more than a curious glance. Then she went for a dip in Oxford ...

Another swimmer at the pool saw her wearing it, and complained to a manager.  Somehow the whole episode ends up in the local newspaper, sparking a debate on immigration and assimilation, along with personal attacks on Ms. Omar.  The whole thing is positively surreal.  Tongue
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« Reply #1: April 24, 2007, 09:23:37 am »

From The Guardian via a friend's blog:

Another swimmer at the pool saw her wearing it, and complained to a manager.  Somehow the whole episode ends up in the local newspaper, sparking a debate on immigration and assimilation, along with personal attacks on Ms. Omar.  The whole thing is positively surreal.  Tongue

That is .. so bizarre.

and, y'know, I wouldn't personally go quite that far, but I see NOTHING wrong with being able to get more modest swimsuits!  If that's what she's comfortable in, and it's safe to swim in, what the FUCK does it matter to anyone else?

That is just too weird.  (and I hope, if I lived there, I'd have the guts to go get one of those suits and swim there just as a statement).
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« Reply #2: April 24, 2007, 12:32:05 pm »

From The Guardian via a friend's blog:

Another swimmer at the pool saw her wearing it, and complained to a manager.  Somehow the whole episode ends up in the local newspaper, sparking a debate on immigration and assimilation, along with personal attacks on Ms. Omar.  The whole thing is positively surreal.  Tongue

A good read - by an admirable woman.  Smiley
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« Reply #3: April 24, 2007, 05:43:48 pm »

Another swimmer at the pool saw her wearing it, and complained to a manager.  Somehow the whole episode ends up in the local newspaper, sparking a debate on immigration and assimilation, along with personal attacks on Ms. Omar.  The whole thing is positively surreal. 

That's really weird. From the picture, it looks something like what one of our neighbors in San Antonio worn in the pool. He was taking drugs that make his skin sunburn almost instantly but needed to use the pool for physical therapy. Translation: I don't see the problem.
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« Reply #4: April 24, 2007, 06:53:30 pm »

the whole episode ends up in the local newspaper, sparking a debate on immigration and assimilation, along with personal attacks on Ms. Omar.  The whole thing is positively surreal.  Tongue
I really can't comprehend the kind of mind that can jump from extreme modesty in swimwear to the destruction of Christian civilization.  I suppose that's something I should be proud of.

(If anything, I'd think it would be the string bikinis they'd be worried about.)

The suits are actually rather nice.  I'm thinking of ordering one for my mom, who loves to swim, but hasn't worn a suit anywhere she could possibly be seen since she hit 50.  And before that, it had to be one with a skirt.  Not muslim, just not wild about the idea of showing off her body.  (Me neither actually... Hmmm...  I wonder if I could get one without the hood...  The green was pretty...)
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« Reply #5: April 24, 2007, 06:57:05 pm »

The suits are actually rather nice.  I'm thinking of ordering one for my mom, who loves to swim, but hasn't worn a suit anywhere she could possibly be seen since she hit 50.  And before that, it had to be one with a skirt.  Not muslim, just not wild about the idea of showing off her body.  (Me neither actually... Hmmm...  I wonder if I could get one without the hood...  The green was pretty...)

Hehe, I think the headgear is a separate piece.

Some of their skirts are really nice, and long skirts are not at all in fashion here.  Too bad I'm so far away. Tongue
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« Reply #6: April 24, 2007, 11:24:53 pm »

Another swimmer at the pool saw her wearing it, and complained to a manager. 

::shakes head:: Somehow I get the impression that the burly, middle-aged man never saw Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.  Remember the beach scene?  The swimming costume of Truly Scrumptious was even more modest than Ms. Omar's. 

A very well written article.  I can understand how Mr. Caldwell could be threatened by an obviously well educated, mannered and modest individual.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7: April 25, 2007, 04:20:59 pm »

This has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Don't they usually whine about thongs and topless beaches leading to the downfall of civilization?  Saying this lady's choice of swimwear will cause that is like saying the planet will explode if you use cottage cheese on your baked potato instead of sour cream.
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« Reply #8: April 25, 2007, 10:37:57 pm »

and, y'know, I wouldn't personally go quite that far, but I see NOTHING wrong with being able to get more modest swimsuits! 

Damn straight!  That's one of the reasons I haven't gone swimming in... 10+ years; I don't want to be seen in any of the modern swimsuit options.  I thought about learning to sew so that I could make one of those 1920's-style suits (kinda like this one, but w/knee-length shorts and an ass-covering skirt that goes at least halfway to the knees).  And actually, the headpiece would be great for protecting your hair from pool chemicals.

I looked around their site, and I quite liked a lot of their clothes; they're modest w/o being a tent.  Very modern, (mostly) tasteful colors, a nice length to the shirts and loosness to the pants.  Even their jilbab, while not something I would wear, looks nice, and not helaciously uncomfortable like they usually do in pics from the ME.  I saved it to my favorites, so that dude's prejudice may've just gave a Muslim company some business.  ^_^  (Eta:  can any ex-pats please explain to me US v. Euro sizing?  Those can't be US sizes.)

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« Reply #9: April 26, 2007, 01:47:25 am »

Can any ex-pats please explain to me US v. Euro sizing?  Those can't be US sizes.

Well, I'm not in Europe, but here's their size chart.  I'd measure yourself rather than converting by size though, American sizes are notoriously variable, and those conversions won't be exact anyway.
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« Reply #10: April 26, 2007, 02:31:13 am »


Well, I'm not in Europe, but here's their size chart

Thanks, Beachglass.  Smiley  I didn't even think to look on their site (it's been a blonde life  Tongue ).

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« Reply #11: April 26, 2007, 06:32:05 pm »

I'm sure there are others, but this is the first Islamic slothing site (of the few I looked at) that had actual females modeling the clothes.
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« Reply #12: April 26, 2007, 07:36:57 pm »

I'm sure there are others, but this is the first Islamic slothing site (of the few I looked at) that had actual females modeling the clothes.

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« Reply #13: April 26, 2007, 07:47:17 pm »



The suits are actually rather nice.  I'm thinking of ordering one for my mom, who loves to swim, but hasn't worn a suit anywhere she could possibly be seen since she hit 50.  And before that, it had to be one with a skirt.  Not muslim, just not wild about the idea of showing off her body.  (Me neither actually... Hmmm...  I wonder if I could get one without the hood...  The green was pretty...)

It might be alright if you wanted to go to the pool and wade or sit around.  With that much cloth and the design of it it was be absolutely lousy to try and swim in.   If you were not a good swimmer and jumed into deep water you could be in danger of drowning.

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« Reply #14: April 26, 2007, 07:55:27 pm »

It might be alright if you wanted to go to the pool and wade or sit around.  With that much cloth and the design of it it was be absolutely lousy to try and swim in.   If you were not a good swimmer and jumed into deep water you could be in danger of drowning.

How do you figure?  Unless I'm missing something, it's essentially a wetsuit with a fairly short dress/long shirt over it...  That doesn't seem like much extra loose fabric to me, and certainly nothing that would put one in much more danger of drowning than any other suit that has a short skirt, or the oversized T-shirts some people wear over their suits around here.  And from the article it sounded like the woman writing the article had been swimming laps in hers safely and effectively for some time.

Maybe I am missing something, though...
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