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« Topic Start: March 15, 2009, 10:03:49 pm »

Much as I hate to admit failure, after working all weekend on what should have been a simple task, I find that my artistic ability is completely inadequate and I must ask for help from someone with actual talent

What I am trying to do is make a scaled drawing of this 1888 baluster, but the perspective and the poor quality of the 1891 photography are causing me problems

Anyone care to help?
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« Reply #1: March 15, 2009, 10:54:19 pm »

Much as I hate to admit failure, after working all weekend on what should have been a simple task, I find that my artistic ability is completely inadequate and I must ask for help from someone with actual talent

What I am trying to do is make a scaled drawing of this 1888 baluster, but the perspective and the poor quality of the 1891 photography are causing me problems

Anyone care to help?
Try an architect or carpenter. 
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« Reply #2: March 15, 2009, 11:43:20 pm »

Try an architect or carpenter. 

Well, the original was done by architect George Barber of Knoxville, TN in 1888
If I thought I could purchase a drawing from him, I would gladly do so, but .......
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« Reply #3: March 16, 2009, 06:01:03 am »

Well, the original was done by architect George Barber of Knoxville, TN in 1888
If I thought I could purchase a drawing from him, I would gladly do so, but .......
There may be plans somewhere, if not the photo looks like it should follow a standard format. A architect or carpenter should be able give ideas were to look.  If it is a historic building check with the local historical society.
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« Reply #4: March 16, 2009, 10:11:40 am »

Much as I hate to admit failure, after working all weekend on what should have been a simple task, I find that my artistic ability is completely inadequate and I must ask for help from someone with actual talent

What I am trying to do is make a scaled drawing of this 1888 baluster, but the perspective and the poor quality of the 1891 photography are causing me problems

Anyone care to help?

Let me talk to Tim.  Once our computer comes home he'll have his CAD to play with and he's pretty good at this stuff.  It would be a good exercise for him to get his game back to par, eh?

We may have it TODAY!!!  *happydance*
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« Reply #5: March 21, 2009, 02:10:09 pm »

Let me talk to Tim.  Once our computer comes home he'll have his CAD to play with and he's pretty good at this stuff.  It would be a good exercise for him to get his game back to par, eh?

We may have it TODAY!!!  *happydance*

Still waiting for the computer, but he says that he'd love to give it a go, and he's sure he can do it (need some measurements to give him a scale.  The rise and tread desired would be all he'd need, really.)
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« Reply #6: March 21, 2009, 09:41:25 pm »

he says that he'd love to give it a go, and he's sure he can do it (need some measurements to give him a scale.  The rise and tread desired would be all he'd need, really.)

Alrighty  Smiley
And I believe my 3-d architecture program can import .dwg format CAD files

Having spent something like 56 hours in one waiting room or another over the past two weeks, I have managed to do a sketch at a scale of 10 pixels per inch
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/dragonoake/No56stairs2.jpg

It's not perfect:
The slope looks too steep for one thing, it should have a 7" rise and 11" run and it looks like I may have reversed that  Shocked
Another thing, since I didn't have a mill work catalog handy in the waiting room, I made an educated guess on the exact dimensions of the newel and the railings

I'm debating on whether the newel needs more detailing (thinking along the lines of a double scroll near the bottom with a spear up the middle) or if I should just find a piece of mahogany with a strong arched grain and let it speak for itself
I'm also wondering if I should extend the frieze rail around the base of the newel up the curb railing

It should be noted that the baluster panels are 8" on center and do not line up with the treads; and a better picture of the scroll work in the corner is at: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/dragonoake/scroll.gif

The first riser is centered on the newel with an 1-1/4" overhang; and the hand rail is 36" from the nose of the tread (to comply with modern building codes)

You can find CAD files of the rosette and frieze rail at: http://www.whiteriver.com/
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« Reply #7: March 22, 2009, 03:56:43 am »

The slope looks too steep for one thing, it should have a 7" rise and 11" run and it looks like I may have reversed that  Shocked

OK, I fixed that; and of course, that messed up everything so I re-did it
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/dragonoake/No56stairs3.jpg
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