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« Topic Start: April 07, 2009, 09:12:43 am »

Fried saussages? Fried saussages?!

I dunno, I fried saussages the other day and had the feeling she liked the smell of them. Maybe I just imagined it (I hope so). Would you offer something like that?

Normally I offer incense, liquids I can poor down the sink the next day or stuff that's easily disposible in the park like fruits. But a piece of saussage? I don't have a garden where I can bury it and don't want to take it with me in the park.

Any ideas? Has anyone ever offered meat?
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« Reply #1: April 07, 2009, 09:29:44 am »

Fried saussages? Fried saussages?!

I dunno, I fried saussages the other day and had the feeling she liked the smell of them. Maybe I just imagined it (I hope so). Would you offer something like that?

Normally I offer incense, liquids I can poor down the sink the next day or stuff that's easily disposible in the park like fruits. But a piece of saussage? I don't have a garden where I can bury it and don't want to take it with me in the park.

Any ideas? Has anyone ever offered meat?

I think burnt offerings were pretty common in the past, including the hellenics which included Artemis. The priests would eat the edible bits afterwards, so you could offer them on a plate and then ceremonially eat it after the prayer/ritual/some set time later.

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« Reply #2: April 07, 2009, 11:37:57 am »

Fried saussages? Fried saussages?!

I dunno, I fried saussages the other day and had the feeling she liked the smell of them. Maybe I just imagined it (I hope so). Would you offer something like that?

Normally I offer incense, liquids I can poor down the sink the next day or stuff that's easily disposible in the park like fruits. But a piece of saussage? I don't have a garden where I can bury it and don't want to take it with me in the park.

Any ideas? Has anyone ever offered meat?

I offer meat for almost all major sacrifices.  Beef, mostly, though pork has been on the menu more than once.  It is traditional offering fare.  For outdoor ritual, we cut off all the extra fat, and that gets burnt in the fire.  We put the meat on the altar for the gods to partake of their share, then we cook and eat our share. 
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« Reply #3: April 07, 2009, 11:58:08 am »

Fried saussages? Fried saussages?!

I dunno, I fried saussages the other day and had the feeling she liked the smell of them. Maybe I just imagined it (I hope so). Would you offer something like that?

Normally I offer incense, liquids I can poor down the sink the next day or stuff that's easily disposible in the park like fruits. But a piece of saussage? I don't have a garden where I can bury it and don't want to take it with me in the park.

Any ideas? Has anyone ever offered meat?

Absolutely. In traditional Hellenic practice, libation and sacrifice were two separate acts, and in most cases the meat was eaten by the participants (communal meal being a big part of the ritual) and the gods got the unedible bits (which were burnt). It's thought that the aroma of the burnt sacrifices pleases/nourishes the gods as the food nourishes us.


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« Reply #4: April 07, 2009, 09:08:19 pm »

Fried saussages? Fried saussages?!

I dunno, I fried saussages the other day and had the feeling she liked the smell of them. Maybe I just imagined it (I hope so). Would you offer something like that?

Why do you hope you imagined it? Why not offer sausages?

I held a ritual a week and a half ago involving ten different Hellenic deities where they each got a feast plate of...oh geez, a lot of things...asparagus, baklava, stuffed grape leaves, spanikopita, pasta and chicken, lamb curry, rice, blueberry muffins and other stuff.

I've made offerings in the past of cake, fruit, entire sandwiches, habanero peppers, rosemary, nutmeg, brownies....I could list a bajillion things.
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« Reply #5: April 08, 2009, 03:51:39 am »

Why do you hope you imagined it? Why not offer sausages?
I just found it a bit spooky to cook my lunch and have the feeling somebody is talking into my ear. But huh, if she likes the smell of fried sausages, I think I can get used to it. Many things just feel weird when you do them for the first time.

And so I guess I can just leave a bit of sausage at the altar and eat it a few hours afterwards.
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« Reply #6: April 08, 2009, 01:22:01 pm »

I held a ritual a week and a half ago involving ten different Hellenic deities where they each got a feast plate of...oh geez, a lot of things...asparagus, baklava, stuffed grape leaves, spanikopita, pasta and chicken, lamb curry, rice, blueberry muffins and other stuff.
Suddenly I wish I was a Hellenic deity Cheesy.

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« Reply #7: April 08, 2009, 04:36:15 pm »

Suddenly I wish I was a Hellenic deity Cheesy.
I wish I could keep up with fiamma's standard. Sounds like hotel theoi. Cheesy

I questioned my sanity for putting a fried sausage on my altar, but I guess it's just my Christian upbringing fighting back. I'd like to have a happy Goddess in my presence... Wonder if she would get mad if you deny her something she wants for too long?

Gee, what's next?
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« Reply #8: April 08, 2009, 04:49:31 pm »

Gee, what's next?

Well, She is the goddess of the hunt, so venison maybe?

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« Reply #9: April 08, 2009, 05:00:03 pm »

Wonder if she would get mad if you deny her something she wants for too long?

Artemis? Yes. I try very hard to oblige when necessary.  Grin
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« Reply #10: April 08, 2009, 05:01:07 pm »

Well, She is the goddess of the hunt, so venison maybe?

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We always offer venison at the Elaphabolia.  (And deer-shaped shortbread cookies.)
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« Reply #11: April 08, 2009, 06:07:19 pm »

Artemis? Yes. I try very hard to oblige when necessary.  Grin
I'm slightly scared, I don't want to see her mad. But I don't have much experiences on how quickly she would get mad and what I could make wrong. Are there specific no nos?

What kind of mad is mad anyway? Does she give warnings?
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« Reply #12: April 08, 2009, 08:17:25 pm »

I'm slightly scared, I don't want to see her mad. But I don't have much experiences on how quickly she would get mad and what I could make wrong. Are there specific no nos?

What kind of mad is mad anyway? Does she give warnings?

Never promise anything you don't follow through on. She's picky about that, very particular about oaths (but then They all are, IME). And while Hellenism is generally orthopractic, simply going through the motions doesn't impress Her - going the extra mile does. Some deities are all about the challenge and the agon and Artemis is one of them. (So's Athene, and I'm sworn to both. What is it about me and the hard Ladies?)

Warnings, yes (in my case, a very vivid nightmare and an obvious omen), but I strongly suspect you only get one.

If it helps any, I'm still a bit scared of Her, too  Smiley


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« Reply #13: April 08, 2009, 09:58:23 pm »

I wish I could keep up with fiamma's standard. Sounds like hotel theoi. Cheesy

hehehehehe....

My rituals aren't usually quite so elaborate, and that wasn't all me, that was five or six other people contributing to the spread as well.

My standard offerings are mostly bay leaves, white wine, water, roses for Apollo; red wine, nutmeg, rosemary for Dionysus; hot peppers, coffee, various candies and spare change for Hermes, as well as things like incense and candles for all.
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« Reply #14: April 08, 2009, 10:05:34 pm »

I just found it a bit spooky to cook my lunch and have the feeling somebody is talking into my ear. But huh, if she likes the smell of fried sausages, I think I can get used to it. Many things just feel weird when you do them for the first time.

LOL...well at least she didn't throw them at you.

The first time I went to buy some wine for Dionysus, I nearly got clocked in the head by a bottle of Shiraz falling off the shelf. (started out looking at white wines...cause I'm a white wine sorta girl, I do loves me some nice New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc.) And I heard this very distinct "Don't even think about it. Red Wine."

Uh...kay. Keep in mind I know *nothing* about red wine. So I'm looking for something and all I have to go on is that feeling, ya know? and I go to grab a bottle off the shelf and check it out, and it gets stuck because the bottle is *exactly* as high as the shelf. And in all that, and trying to get it unstuck, I knock another bottle over and just barely manage to catch it. Turn it over and lo and behold, there's a bottle of Shiraz.

Can't stand the stuff, but my rituals for Dionysus involve me drinking the wine too. The one time I decided to try something else to see if there was a red wine that we might both want, it didn't go over so well- he did not want that Cabernet Sauvignon. (I on the other hand, didn't mind it so much) The only white wine that's ever been accepted has been a Greek wine that had a picture of him on the label...lol
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