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« Topic Start: May 04, 2009, 04:11:35 pm »

I post very few blog postings unless they've got follow-up links or are in some way unusual.

This one disturbs me greatly even though I know it's been going on.



Hunting People for Jesus: Growing Fundamentalism in the U.S. Military

After revelations that some American soldiers were given Bibles and encouraged to "hunt people for Jesus," the Pentagon on Monday denied allegations that the U.S. military allows its personnel to seek the conversion of Afghans to Christianity. But while the copies of the New Testament translated into Pashtun and jaw-dropping video from Bagram may seem like exceptions that prove the rule of American prohibition on proselytizing by the military, they are just the latest episodes in the disturbing rise in influence of Christian conservatives in the United States armed services.

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« Reply #1: May 04, 2009, 05:37:40 pm »

After revelations that some American soldiers were given Bibles and encouraged to "hunt people for Jesus," the Pentagon on Monday denied allegations that the U.S. military allows its personnel to seek the conversion of Afghans to Christianity.

Since it is on film, I am really more interested in how they plan to stop it in the future rather than in denials that it is happening. It's not good for American foreign policy and worse it is abusing the power American troops have in place like Afghanistan.
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« Reply #2: May 04, 2009, 08:06:16 pm »

Since it is on film, I am really more interested in how they plan to stop it in the future rather than in denials that it is happening. It's not good for American foreign policy and worse it is abusing the power American troops have in place like Afghanistan.

Do you find it a concern from an internal perspective? I think that it would concern me at a domestic level if the Australian Defence Forces predominantly held alliegance to any extreme belief system.
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« Reply #3: May 04, 2009, 10:23:21 pm »

Do you find it a concern from an internal perspective? I think that it would concern me at a domestic level if the Australian Defence Forces predominantly held alliegance to any extreme belief system.

Some concern but probably not as much as you'd have as fundies are much more common in the US than they are in Australia. We're much more used to them.
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« Reply #4: May 04, 2009, 11:56:53 pm »

Some concern but probably not as much as you'd have as fundies are much more common in the US than they are in Australia. We're much more used to them.

I'm minded of the time of the Prophet in some of Heinlein's works Smiley
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« Reply #5: May 05, 2009, 08:52:09 am »

I'm minded of the time of the Prophet in some of Heinlein's works Smiley

It's not that bad, and really unlikely to get that bad. The Fundie churches and groups are no longer growing at the rapid rates they were ten years ago. Some are even starting to fall in membership. The next generation of the Christian Right is not solely focused on banning abortion and gay marriage, they see this focus as abandoning the issues Christ cared most about (like helping the poor).
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« Reply #6: May 05, 2009, 02:03:53 pm »

It's not that bad, and really unlikely to get that bad. The Fundie churches and groups are no longer growing at the rapid rates they were ten years ago. Some are even starting to fall in membership. The next generation of the Christian Right is not solely focused on banning abortion and gay marriage, they see this focus as abandoning the issues Christ cared most about (like helping the poor).

Good for them, I do believe that was the point to begin with anyways.

I never served myself, but i remember back in High School the NJROTC was extremely christian based, and of navel science instructor was Fundie for sure and didnt mind stating it in class. Back then I was a christian to so didnt really mind, but if I was in the class today I would probably say something.
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« Reply #7: May 05, 2009, 07:01:52 pm »

some American soldiers were given Bibles and encouraged to "hunt people for Jesus,"....
I have a mind almost as twisted as Melamphoros'; that makes me think of Flirty Fishing.  (It also gives me a "conversion at swordgunpoint" mental picture - which is probably worse, if only because it's uncomfortably close to what could all too easily be happening here.)

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« Reply #8: May 05, 2009, 07:13:23 pm »

I have a mind almost as twisted as Melamphoros'; that makes me think of Flirty Fishing.  (It also gives me a "conversion at swordgunpoint" mental picture - which is probably worse, if only because it's uncomfortably close to what could all too easily be happening here.)

*looks at the link*

Almost as twisted as mine?  That never crossed my mind!  What's wrong with you Cheesy

What came to my mind was the second thing you wrote + that short story "The Most Dangerous Game" by Richard Connell.  Or more precisely, "The Most Dangerous Game" if the antagonist were hunting down non-Christians, gays, and all other sinners and killing them in the name of Christ.
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« Reply #9: May 05, 2009, 07:15:01 pm »

It's not that bad, and really unlikely to get that bad. The Fundie churches and groups are no longer growing at the rapid rates they were ten years ago. Some are even starting to fall in membership. The next generation of the Christian Right is not solely focused on banning abortion and gay marriage, they see this focus as abandoning the issues Christ cared most about (like helping the poor).
<nod> In the first Bush Jr term, I was haunted by the spectre of Nehemiah Scudder - not fun, when you think, "If this goes on...," and then realize you're quoting the story title.  But it eased off - not completely, but a lot - as I noted all the things that weren't happening that'd have to be done for something like that to come to pass.

The shift toward the Religious Right being fundamental about social justice is very heartening.

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« Reply #10: May 05, 2009, 07:19:25 pm »

*looks at the link*

Almost as twisted as mine?  That never crossed my mind!  What's wrong with you Cheesy
I've had over a quarter-century more practice <insert "devil" emoticon here>.

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What came to my mind was the second thing you wrote + that short story "The Most Dangerous Game" by Richard Connell.  Or more precisely, "The Most Dangerous Game" if the antagonist were hunting down non-Christians, gays, and all other sinners and killing them in the name of Christ.
Ergh, yeah.

I think we'll just have to agree we're both twisted, and avoid the Mordant Olympics Cheesy.

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« Reply #11: May 06, 2009, 11:30:32 am »

I have a mind almost as twisted as Melamphoros'; that makes me think of Flirty Fishing.  (It also gives me a "conversion at swordgunpoint" mental picture - which is probably worse, if only because it's uncomfortably close to what could all too easily be happening here.)

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O M G   That flirty Fishing thing makes me want to scrub my brain with bleach.  Jesus babies my ass!  How many marriages broke up over this?
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« Reply #12: May 06, 2009, 05:02:45 pm »

O M G   That flirty Fishing thing makes me want to scrub my brain with bleach.  Jesus babies my ass!  How many marriages broke up over this?

Apparently not nearly as many as one might expect.
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« Reply #13: May 06, 2009, 06:07:31 pm »

Apparently not nearly as many as one might expect.

I'm wondering more how many women's lives were destroyed with that?

I mean, gods, being told you don't even own your own BODY?  *shudder*
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« Reply #14: May 06, 2009, 06:11:52 pm »

I'm wondering more how many women's lives were destroyed with that?

There aren't any statistics on that (that I know of), but I imagine the number is much higher than marriages destroyed.
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