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« Topic Start: May 16, 2009, 12:57:51 am »

What are some of the most useful bits of information or concepts that you have picked up from other religions?  Although I don't consider myself eclectic, I sometimes borrow or use information from other faiths.  One of the most helpful concepts I have found is the Buddhist idea of a Bodhisattva.  It gives me a framework for one way of understanding great historical figures like Jesus and Ghandi. 

So what are your stray bits?  How have you incorporated them into your own worldview?

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« Reply #1: May 16, 2009, 08:24:05 pm »

So what are your stray bits?  How have you incorporated them into your own worldview?
One thing that sticks out to me is Hinduism's idea that there are "many paths to the same summit." Hinduism embraces a variety of different ways of practicing the religion and accommodates seemingly contradictory ideas. The following is the start of an article from Ramakrishna of the same name. I am unsure what book it is from - it was copied as a class handout.

"God has made different religions to suit different aspirants, times, and countries. All doctrines are only so many paths; but a path is by no means God Himself. Indeed, one can reach God if one follows any of the paths with wholehearted devotion. One may eat a cake with icing either straight or sidewise. It will taste sweet either way. ... As one can ascend to the top of a house by means of a ladder or a bamboo or a staircase or a rope, so diverse are the ways and means to approach God, and every religion in the world shows one of these ways."

I see this kind of attitude as beneficial not only in a religious and philosophical sense, but a very practical one as well. Smiley
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« Reply #2: May 16, 2009, 09:40:07 pm »


Buddhism has a similar approach (many paths, same goal). The Buddha himself varied his teachings depending on the ability of his audience to understand them. Those who could comprehend the higher, more esoteric lessons, got them. Those who needed something simple along the lines of "recite this and offer incense" got that. His Holiness the Dalai Lama maintains that this "personalized" version of religion is one of the very reasons we have so many religions in the world today--one for each person would be ideal, he says, because we are just that different from one another. (I think this is from the book of his I seem to be referencing the most of late, Ethics for the New Millennium. It's an idea he returns to time and again, when explaining how every religion on the planet has good things about it, from which the adherents benefit.)

Sorry for the not-quite-OT post, but that struck a chord with me.

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« Reply #3: May 17, 2009, 11:55:50 pm »



Great points, and exactly why I have a soft spot for those eastern religions, so much less hate than western (in my personal experience)

Personally ive seen some great things in just about ever religion, from Catholicism to Odinism there is just so much beauty if people would just calm down and enjoy their path. Live and let live and all that sort.

I remember in Catholicism I loved the rosary, something about it hit a definite nerve to me, same with the ethics of Odinism, the texts of Buddhism and the stories of Hinduism. So much great stuff is out there in my opinion.
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« Reply #4: November 22, 2009, 03:35:29 pm »

Hmmm...useful bits huh?...It sounds a little familiar with something that some major religions(note as I am not saying names, so I am not offending anyone Wink) did in the past (and still do) to impose and justify their dominion over every pagan/polytheistic ancestral religion everywhere they went. Of course, after they did this, they just annihilated everyone who didn't like it. Oh sweet History...
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« Reply #5: November 22, 2009, 06:03:07 pm »

What are some of the most useful bits of information or concepts that you have picked up from other religions? 

A good witch is eclectic. She'll steal anything that works. - Ellen Cannon Reed

I've stolen so much from so many, lol... but I'll mention Vodou here:

Once I started studying Vodou & Santeria, I started to realize a couple of major differences between the African Diaspora and more western or European Pagan systems, and I found it perfectly okay to bring those into my own beliefs, because they make more sense to me. One is that if someone hurts you, it's okay to be angry, and it's okay to fight back. There is not a lot of 'turn the other cheek'-ism or 'if it harms none' in Vodou. The lwa would think you were a big sissy if you didn't stand up for yourself. You don't have to be a bully and go around picking on other people, but say, if someone steals something that belongs to you, it's ok to bring down the wrath of the Gods on them.

Another thing is that it's ok to get paid for spiritual work, and not everyone who asks for money for doing spiritual work is a con-person. You are investing your time, experience, knowledge and sometimes physical supplies to do something for someone - and asking a fair payment for that time, knowledge & experience does not make you a bad person. You are acting just like any other professional person out there. Would you go to a lawyer & expect them to work for free, or a 'love donation'? (I'm not saying that you shouldn't be careful about who you hire - there are a lot of con-people out there, but it's just common sense and a common courtesy to pay someone for their time).
 
The last, and most important idea to me that I've picked up from Vodou is the concept of 'worship (or offerings) given to One is given to All'. What it means is that even though you may have your own patron deity or deities (or lwa, orisha, ancestors, etc.), whenever you show love, reverence and respect for one of them, you are giving those energies to all of them, even ones you may not even know about.
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« Reply #6: November 22, 2009, 06:31:59 pm »

Hmmm...useful bits huh?...It sounds a little familiar with something that some major religions(note as I am not saying names, so I am not offending anyone Wink) did in the past (and still do) to impose and justify their dominion over every pagan/polytheistic ancestral religion everywhere they went. Of course, after they did this, they just annihilated everyone who didn't like it. Oh sweet History...

This has nothing to do with this thread. Drop it.
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« Reply #7: November 22, 2009, 08:03:21 pm »

This has nothing to do with this thread. Drop it.

Oh I do not intent to sabotage the topic. I just wanted to point out that the "bits-taking" has dangerous precedents. Just to have that in consideration is good enough. I'm aware that the topic deals with philosophical concepts. I consider and take concepts from other pagan religions and think they are very valuable. Although that does not mean I'll worship the Gods of those religions. And this is Not because I have anything against them. There are VARIOUS Gods out of my pantheon that I respect more than you may think. It just because of the simple reason that they are not my Gods.

And that's about ME and just ME. I am not criticizing people who are eclectic/syncretist pagans. That's their spiritual path and I respect it as long as they respect mine.
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