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« Topic Start: May 23, 2009, 04:39:52 pm »

So, I need a qoute in every post I make?
Now if I forget and latter realize it would be against the rules for me to edit in a qoute?
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« Reply #1: May 23, 2009, 05:47:59 pm »

So, I need a qoute in every post I make?

Yes, particularly we need the special quote BBCode that the "Reply/Quote" button generates (which provides a link to the message being quoted). Putting in a quote manually does not generate this backlink code.
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« Reply #2: May 23, 2009, 06:01:25 pm »

Yes, particularly we need the special quote BBCode that the "Reply/Quote" button generates (which provides a link to the message being quoted). Putting in a quote manually does not generate this backlink code.
Whats so imprtant about that?
Edit:
http://www.ecauldron.net/forum/index.php?topic=9120.0
A thread on Wards I made in the magic and occult sub section.
A qoute from it.

Close your eyes.
Ground your self
Locate and check any sheilds you may have up
Focuse your self
Imagen a black wall pops up  in front of you
...
Intertwine spells, prayers, sheilds, other wards, ruins, etc
Personalize it
Find its true color
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NOTE: everything is copy and pasted.
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« Reply #3: May 23, 2009, 06:22:28 pm »

On topic but off in a new direction, can you explain the philsophy of this rules and of the bored staff and board itself?
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« Reply #4: May 23, 2009, 06:50:17 pm »

On topic but off in a new direction, can you explain the philsophy of this rules and of the bored staff and board itself?

The reason for the quoting rules is explained in the Quoting Guidelines rules:

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Many people think is it silly to have to quote the message they just read as they believe that it should be obvious to later readers what message they are replying to. Unfortunately, what seems "obvious" to the the poster is not necessarily "obvious" to someone reading the thread at a different time.  For example, if someone who read part of the thread a day ago comes back into the thread and the first new message they see they is your post, without rereading the rest of the thread would they be able to tell what you were talking about without a quote? In most situations, the answer is "no", because they won't necessarily have the context of the post you're replying to immediately at hand.  (Even if it's the one right before yours, or the first one in the thread.)  That's part of why we require so much quoting.  (The other part is that if one wants to go back and trace the context of the conversation through the thread, it can be time-consuming and confusing without the link-backs the special quote bbcode the Reply/Quote button inserts provides. These linkbacks are especially important to the staff when moderating problem situations.)

The hosts and staff are aware that our quoting rules are significantly different from the way other message boards do things.  Nevertheless, they have decided that this is what we need posters to do in order for our particular forum to function properly. Please do not complain that our quoting rules are different than other boards. When you are posting at The Cauldron, you need to do it The Cauldron way, and that way is not going to change just because "everyone else" does it differently.
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« Reply #5: May 23, 2009, 07:34:56 pm »

The reason for the quoting rules is explained in the Quoting Guidelines rules:

What if my comment is off the thread title and not any one post in the thread, or all of them?

Do not take my questionsas complant I am just trying to fully understand and not just know the rules.
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« Reply #6: May 23, 2009, 07:43:46 pm »

What if my comment is off the thread title and not any one post in the thread, or all of them?

Do not take my questionsas complant I am just trying to fully understand and not just know the rules.

Randall provided a link to the full quoting guidelines, where you can find the exceptions to the rule, including:


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If in any doubt about whether or not a message needs a quote, include a small quote.

You might find it helpful to have a look through the Rules and Regulations board.  As well as the rules themselves, there are a bunch of 'guidelines' posts that expand a bit on the rules and should answer some of your questions.

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« Reply #7: May 23, 2009, 08:05:21 pm »

On topic but off in a new direction, can you explain the philsophy of this rules and of the bored staff and board itself?

The point of the quoting rules is so that we can understand what's being replied to directly.  We come from a board where this was done automatically, and we only shifted because we had no choice.  The quoting tags gives us the closest way of replicating that that we can find.
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« Reply #8: May 24, 2009, 03:07:11 pm »

  We come from a board where this was done automatically,
So its a histoty thing. This forum evolved from a forum that was use to having everything linked to another post?
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« Reply #9: May 24, 2009, 05:45:31 pm »

So its a histoty thing. This forum evolved from a forum that was use to having everything linked to another post?

Yes, we spend 8+ years on Delphi Forums and then Beehive software which had this feature. The only reason we could move to SMF was because this feature could be faked by requiring quoting. People have problems with this have plenty of other words that don't have this requirement they can post on. Without the quotes with backlinks, I'd shut the board down as it would be too much trouble to follow. let alone fairly moderate. That's just the way things are.  Most rules on this board are here because they have proven to be needed for us over the last ten years.
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