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« Reply #15: July 08, 2009, 10:59:11 pm »

Mel's not being bloodthirsty, he's got plenty of babies in the freezer don't ya mel? No need to be thirsty, he just is intolerant of the great matriarchy, what with his evil doom penis. I know I have one too but I've been enlightened.

*sigh*  If only it got that reaction....

Jumping of Juniper's post, in the Sex Ed class can we teach that the penis is not evil as some of the more rabid groups seem to think.  I wouldn't go as far as preaching 'the penis is your friend' because that might upset lesbian students but something that would squash that attitude.

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« Reply #16: July 08, 2009, 11:11:40 pm »

Jumping of Juniper's post, in the Sex Ed class can we teach that the penis is not evil as some of the more rabid groups seem to think.  I wouldn't go as far as preaching 'the penis is your friend' because that might upset lesbian students but something that would squash that attitude.

Which means it could be a sexuality class aswell as just a plain old sex ed class. I know the issue of sexuality was something that was completely ignored in our sex ed class. Maybe that was because I went to an all-girl high school though.
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« Reply #17: July 09, 2009, 05:19:13 am »

Which means it could be a sexuality class aswell as just a plain old sex ed class. I know the issue of sexuality was something that was completely ignored in our sex ed class. Maybe that was because I went to an all-girl high school though.

"Sex Magick: The Ins and Outs" - an advanced elective?  Tongue

I'd love to see some very specific electives to complement the general subjects, like Chanting/Singing. Maybe they could be options in the general stuff. Can I draft the syllabuses?  Smiley

Ooh. We could think of student clubs and societies too!
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« Reply #18: July 09, 2009, 08:03:52 am »

I'm not sure about Life Skills...it sounds too much like Home Ec when I was in junior high, which always made me cringe...!


See, I think some kind of life skills/home ec should be mandatory.

I find it APPALLING that people get out of school and don't know how to do basic things.  Like laundry.  Or mend a rip in their clothing.  Or make pasta.

And to add to that - if you're looking for magical/meditative uses, I've never found ANYTHING so usefully meditative as knitting or cross-stitch.  I can easily see it being used for magic - weaving in spells with every stitch.
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« Reply #19: July 09, 2009, 08:12:15 am »

Plures Semita

If I remember my Latin, "Semita" would be fairly specific -- something like "narrow footpaths". "Plures Via" would be another possibility (Many Roads).
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« Reply #20: July 09, 2009, 10:39:48 am »

See, I think some kind of life skills/home ec should be mandatory.

I find it APPALLING that people get out of school and don't know how to do basic things.  Like laundry.  Or mend a rip in their clothing.  Or make pasta.

And to add to that - if you're looking for magical/meditative uses, I've never found ANYTHING so usefully meditative as knitting or cross-stitch.  I can easily see it being used for magic - weaving in spells with every stitch.

It is appalling that very few of the young people I know, outside of my own daughters and their friends who I've taught, know how to sew on a button, let alone mend torn clothing. 

When I read "make pasta" I thought of flour, salt, eggs and oil, then realized you might have meant "open sack, pour into boiling water, cook until al dente and serve". 
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« Reply #21: July 09, 2009, 12:06:29 pm »

It is appalling that very few of the young people I know, outside of my own daughters and their friends who I've taught, know how to sew on a button, let alone mend torn clothing. 

When I read "make pasta" I thought of flour, salt, eggs and oil, then realized you might have meant "open sack, pour into boiling water, cook until al dente and serve". 

Yeah.  I don't mean make the pasta itself - I mean boil water and serve the premade stuff!

What scares me the most is that it was some of the more intelligent people I knew - I went to a geeky college - that had the least ability to fend for themselves.  SCARY.

There should absolutely be mandatory home ec in all schools.  I'm not saying you need to be able to knit a sweater or sew a prom dress, but for crying out loud know how to do laundry and feed yourself better than nuking a frozen dinner!
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« Reply #22: July 09, 2009, 12:29:15 pm »

Yeah.  I don't mean make the pasta itself - I mean boil water and serve the premade stuff!

What scares me the most is that it was some of the more intelligent people I knew - I went to a geeky college - that had the least ability to fend for themselves.  SCARY.

There should absolutely be mandatory home ec in all schools.  I'm not saying you need to be able to knit a sweater or sew a prom dress, but for crying out loud know how to do laundry and feed yourself better than nuking a frozen dinner!

I cannot believe how untrained some of my adult children's friends are! 

Off topic -in my sentence above, where does the apostrophe on childrens go?  I get a red line no matter what I do!
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« Reply #23: July 09, 2009, 12:45:46 pm »

What scares me the most is that it was some of the more intelligent people I knew - I went to a geeky college - that had the least ability to fend for themselves.  SCARY.

Because home ec tends not to be offered to those on college prep tracks.  To be at least partially fair to the school where I went, they did teach home ec in 7th and 8th grade, while I joined up in 9th.  But still.  Yeah.  Other college prep high schools or tracks within larger schools tend to leave it out entirely.  Apparently they think if you go to college you'll then be earning enough to hire help?  Not that that has been my experience, never mind the skills you need just to get through college if you live there.
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« Reply #24: July 09, 2009, 12:49:25 pm »

Because home ec tends not to be offered to those on college prep tracks.  To be at least partially fair to the school where I went, they did teach home ec in 7th and 8th grade, while I joined up in 9th.  But still.  Yeah.  Other college prep high schools or tracks within larger schools tend to leave it out entirely.  Apparently they think if you go to college you'll then be earning enough to hire help?  Not that that has been my experience, never mind the skills you need just to get through college if you live there.

I think there's also the idea that if you're college track, you're smart enough to "not need help" on that stuff and can use your time "better".

Which only goes to show that the people making these decisions don't know the people I know .... Tongue
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« Reply #25: July 09, 2009, 01:22:28 pm »

Let's say there was a pagan high school, sort of a real live Hogwart's; not an online thing, but a physical place, complete with campus.

1) What would you like to teach there?

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2) What do you think should be taught there?

The answer to both would be botany, ethnobotany specifically, specializing in the indigenous (including magical) use of local plants.  Plants local to the area of the school would be given special consideration.

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« Reply #26: July 09, 2009, 01:41:04 pm »

Off topic -in my sentence above, where does the apostrophe on childrens go?

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« Reply #27: July 09, 2009, 03:06:33 pm »

I may have asked this once before, but it was so long ago it's worth asking again:

Let's say there was a pagan high school, sort of a real live Hogwart's; not an online thing, but a physical place, complete with campus.

1) What would you like to teach there?

I'd like to teach 'Law, Religion and You' - even though I don't know if that's something geared towards high school or more towards college.


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Along with the obvious stuff, like literature, mathematics, sciences, mythology, etc. & the good suggestions of critical thinking and ethics, debate & public speaking classes should be mandatory. I don't know how many times I've /facepalmed because Pagans that get interviewed by the media can't say a sentence without peppering it with, "Well, like, you know, really..." (not to mention presidents...)
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« Reply #28: July 09, 2009, 03:34:28 pm »

See, I think some kind of life skills/home ec should be mandatory.

I find it APPALLING that people get out of school and don't know how to do basic things.  Like laundry.  Or mend a rip in their clothing.  Or make pasta.

To me, those are things you can pick up--from your parents, your friends, or the instructions on the side of the pasta box. I agree, though, that sex and sexuality ed is a must.
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« Reply #29: July 09, 2009, 03:35:50 pm »

If I remember my Latin, "Semita" would be fairly specific -- something like "narrow footpaths". "Plures Via" would be another possibility (Many Roads).

Thanks. Online translators tend to be lacking in the nuance department.
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