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« Reply #15: May 04, 2007, 07:27:25 pm »

As long as I stick to whole rocks I should be safe from these 'oversights', infections and pesticides....

You can add fruits and veggies that you grow yourself to your diet. Smiley

It's like I told Randall when we were planting the tomatoes and herb garden. Yes, it's dirt, but it's MY dirt. I know what I've put in there.
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« Reply #16: May 04, 2007, 08:53:41 pm »

You can add fruits and veggies that you grow yourself to your diet. Smiley

It's like I told Randall when we were planting the tomatoes and herb garden. Yes, it's dirt, but it's MY dirt. I know what I've put in there.

That is one advantage you have of being South +/- Texas, a longer growing season.  I'm just starting to get the garden in, some transplants and the rest from seed.  But it will be 6 weeks before the first prodce comes out of the garden, if that soon.
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« Reply #17: May 04, 2007, 09:02:25 pm »

That is one advantage you have of being South +/- Texas, a longer growing season.  I'm just starting to get the garden in, some transplants and the rest from seed.  But it will be 6 weeks before the first prodce comes out of the garden, if that soon.

Back when I had my full-sized garden, I would be coming up close on my second harvest. My first one would have started in late February or early March with the lettuces. I miss that.
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« Reply #18: May 05, 2007, 08:29:02 am »

Well. Shit.

Tainted poultry has entered food supply
Millions of chickens ate feed containing melamine, government officials say

WASHINGTON - The Food and Drug Adminstration said Tuesday that as many as 3 million chickens that may have been given contaminated feed containing melamine have already been eaten by consumers, according to NBC News.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18405363/

Alllllrighty.  First they start off with pet food, now people food?  Call me paranoid, but it really makes me wonder if theres a method to the madness.  It seems that they are experimenting with the reaction speed to toxicity.  How fast can the FDA catch known toxins entering the food supplies.

The spinach gave the idea, the pet food was an experiment.  Now with the chicken they're proving the theory that the FDA just can't keep up, and one could most likely introduce whatever they wanted into the American food supply, and it would be at least a few weeks before it was noticed, and another few weeks before it was identified and stopped. 

Alrighty.  I'm going to go be abducted by aliens now.
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« Reply #19: May 05, 2007, 11:12:47 am »

Alllllrighty.  First they start off with pet food, now people food?  Call me paranoid, but it really makes me wonder if theres a method to the madness.  It seems that they are experimenting with the reaction speed to toxicity.  How fast can the FDA catch known toxins entering the food supplies.

The spinach gave the idea, the pet food was an experiment.  Now with the chicken they're proving the theory that the FDA just can't keep up, and one could most likely introduce whatever they wanted into the American food supply, and it would be at least a few weeks before it was noticed, and another few weeks before it was identified and stopped. 

Alrighty.  I'm going to go be abducted by aliens now.

Unfortunately you're making sense.....
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« Reply #20: May 05, 2007, 07:23:56 pm »

Alllllrighty.  First they start off with pet food, now people food?  Call me paranoid, but it really makes me wonder if theres a method to the madness.  It seems that they are experimenting with the reaction speed to toxicity.  How fast can the FDA catch known toxins entering the food supplies.

I had a friend of mine who used the following as an email signature:

There's a word that begins with 'P' to describe someone who believes others are out to get them: Perceptive.
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« Reply #21: May 05, 2007, 09:01:31 pm »

Alllllrighty.  First they start off with pet food, now people food?  Call me paranoid, but it really makes me wonder if theres a method to the madness.  It seems that they are experimenting with the reaction speed to toxicity.  How fast can the FDA catch known toxins entering the food supplies.

The spinach gave the idea, the pet food was an experiment.  Now with the chicken they're proving the theory that the FDA just can't keep up, and one could most likely introduce whatever they wanted into the American food supply, and it would be at least a few weeks before it was noticed, and another few weeks before it was identified and stopped.

Call me paranoid but you make a lot of sense.    It is some form of hell when you get so you can not trust andone in authority.
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« Reply #22: May 05, 2007, 10:50:53 pm »


If you cook vegetables, it will kill e. coli and salmonella, right?  Assuming you get it up to a high enough temperature.  And I don't think you really can poison (w/coal slag, not bacterial or viral contaminants) frozen veggies in a way that won't wash off.  So, I was thinking stir-fried veggies (so as to get them to a really high temperature) and health food store tofu (or local meat fed locally-grown feed for you non-veggies) is the way to go for awhile.  Which sucks because I hate to cook.  Tongue

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« Reply #23: May 05, 2007, 11:20:33 pm »

Alllllrighty.  First they start off with pet food, now people food?  Call me paranoid, but it really makes me wonder if theres a method to the madness.  It seems that they are experimenting with the reaction speed to toxicity.  How fast can the FDA catch known toxins entering the food supplies.

The spinach gave the idea, the pet food was an experiment.  Now with the chicken they're proving the theory that the FDA just can't keep up, and one could most likely introduce whatever they wanted into the American food supply, and it would be at least a few weeks before it was noticed, and another few weeks before it was identified and stopped. 

Alrighty.  I'm going to go be abducted by aliens now.

You're actually making sense here. I know that the government agencies often do simulations to test out reaction times. It wouldn't surprise me if this was the case.

Unfortunately, this kind of simulation has a cascade effect on our own economy and that of our allies (and enemies). I wouldn't want to find out how many people stopped buying pet food, how many others stopped buying farmed meat (as opposed to "safe" freerange meat) .... you get my drift.

If this is a simulation, I hope that they stop it soon.

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« Reply #24: May 06, 2007, 03:59:19 am »

Alllllrighty.  First they start off with pet food, now people food?  Call me paranoid, but it really makes me wonder if theres a method to the madness.

I suspect the madness is called: "Let's see if we can get away with making our pet food and feed products seem to contain more protein and thus more expensive than they do by adding melamine - after all, the Chinese are doing it in their own feed market and making profits!"

Considering how long it took for the pet food companies to start recalls (didn't they do tests, have test animals die and still do nothing for a while?), it isn't that odd to think they aren't as innocent to the whole deal they're trying to look like, you know.

In short: to me, big business' plans on trying to make more profit backfiring is a much more likely scenario than any (foreign) agency testing the vulnerability of the US food chain.
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« Reply #25: May 06, 2007, 08:34:13 am »

In short: to me, big business' plans on trying to make more profit backfiring is a much more likely scenario than any (foreign) agency testing the vulnerability of the US food chain.

Agreed. Besides, Chinese leaders aren't stupid, they know that while pets aren't generally considered familiy members in China, they are in the US and killing off a bunch of pets is more likely to get the US public behind a nuclear attack on the country doing it than anything short of the country nuking a few US cities would.
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« Reply #26: May 07, 2007, 12:47:44 am »

In short: to me, big business' plans on trying to make more profit backfiring is a much more likely scenario than any (foreign) agency testing the vulnerability of the US food chain.
IOW, a case of "Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by avarice," to revamp the old saying.  Seems more likely to me, too.

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« Reply #27: May 07, 2007, 09:22:37 pm »

If you cook vegetables, it will kill e. coli and salmonella, right?  Assuming you get it up to a high enough temperature.  And I don't think you really can poison (w/coal slag, not bacterial or viral contaminants) frozen veggies in a way that won't wash off.  So, I was thinking stir-fried veggies (so as to get them to a really high temperature) and health food store tofu (or local meat fed locally-grown feed for you non-veggies) is the way to go for awhile.  Which sucks because I hate to cook.  Tongue

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It really does not take really high temp to kill e coli and salmonella.  Virises  a little different.  But it is not just the live bacteria you have to worry about.  Some produce what are called endo toxins.  The toxins remain active even after the bacteria are dead (since the toxins are a by product and not alive).
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« Reply #28: May 11, 2007, 04:07:19 pm »

and health food store tofu

Make sure it's local tofu then.  The majority of the soy products we get here come from China.
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« Reply #29: May 11, 2007, 11:30:26 pm »

Make sure it's local tofu then.  The majority of the soy products we get here come from China.

Really?  I thought soy was a big crop the U.S.  What do they do with it all?
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