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Author Topic: Pope Criticizes Paganism in Encyclical on Love & Charity  (Read 9940 times)
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« Reply #45: July 15, 2009, 04:35:20 pm »

I was working off the tangent.  You know, thread drift.  If you follow them back you get to people talking about turning the other cheek.
Sorry, if I misunderstood you. I just was a bit confused about the pathway of this discussion.
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« Reply #46: July 15, 2009, 05:35:07 pm »

That's pretty much my reaction. However, much of what he says is wrong with Pagans is also done/believed by many who claim to be Christian. If he asked me my opinion of his encyclical, I would just quote his religion's own scripture to him:

Randall,
I have pretty much agreed with most of what you have said since I have been permitted to be a part of this forum.  So let me just say that I think you pretty much hit the largest nail with the largest hammer on the head with this comment.  As you have obviously seen I tend to lean toward Christian teachings in my faith.  But it is the passage that you have quoted (in your above comment not quoted here) from the Bible that is so central to the original Christian Faith.  I think that this is a passage that many Christians prefer to look over when dealing with people that they do not care for.   
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« Reply #47: July 15, 2009, 10:44:39 pm »

Randall,
I have pretty much agreed with most of what you have said since I have been permitted to be a part of this forum.  So let me just say that I think you pretty much hit the largest nail with the largest hammer on the head with this comment.  As you have obviously seen I tend to lean toward Christian teachings in my faith.  But it is the passage that you have quoted (in your above comment not quoted here) from the Bible that is so central to the original Christian Faith.  I think that this is a passage that many Christians prefer to look over when dealing with people that they do not care for.   

There is a reason why simply quoting Matthew 7:1 does not have the effect of silencing Christians; it has never been understood within Christian teaching to mean that it should.

Christian teaching is extremely involved and incorporates, at a minimum, the rest of the Bible.  Those teachings are full of admonishments to recognize sin, warn people about sin, exercise discernment about people, and so forth.  Without a long excursion into Biblical exegesis, Matthew 7:1 does not undo all of this (the very same chapter tells Christians to excercise discernment about others by their "fruits"), which is why quoting it in proof text fashion never has the desired result.
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