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[rose]

This is a Celtic Cross spread I did a few weeks ago, using the Sacred Circle tarot, a celtic trads deck. The question was whether there was hope for a relationship to be reconciled and reunited in the future.

1 Significator= Shaman (hermit) rev.
2 Cross= Chariot
3 Foundation=King Pentacles rev.
4 Passing Influences 4 Cups rev.
5 Higher Power= High Priestess
6 Near Future Influences= 7 pentacles rev.
7 How I see myself= King Swords
8 Environmental influences= Page Cups
9 Hopes and Fears= 9 Pentacles
10 Outcome=Lovers

Have at it!

[Tana]

This is a Celtic Cross spread I did a few weeks ago, using the Sacred Circle tarot, a celtic trads deck. The question was whether there was hope for a relationship to be reconciled and reunited in the future.

OK, since I happened to have the Lenormands before me I tried my favriote 5 card cross spread on this.

The situation is about a friendship. (The Dog)

You already mastered the spiritual level, that was needed to understand what happened on the level of emotions. (The Stars + The Moon)

It will not take too long, a lucky turn will bring a new start here. (The Clover + The Child)

The (male) person concerned is the one who has to make the decision concerning this relationship and he will. (The Man + The Ways)

The advice card tells us about the obstacles being eaten away. (The Mice + The Mountain)

So yes. I'd say this relationship will be healed.

[rose]

OK, since I happened to have the Lenormands before me I tried my favriote 5 card cross spread on this.

The situation is about a friendship. (The Dog)

You already mastered the spiritual level, that was needed to understand what happened on the level of emotions. (The Stars + The Moon)

It will not take too long, a lucky turn will bring a new start here. (The Clover + The Child)

The (male) person concerned is the one who has to make the decision concerning this relationship and he will. (The Man + The Ways)

The advice card tells us about the obstacles being eaten away. (The Mice + The Mountain)

So yes. I'd say this relationship will be healed.

fascinating, b/c that is quite similar to what the cards I threw say, to my mind. However, I'd love for someone to interpret the cards, if anyone is up for that, or has a different perspective. Thanks for using Lenormand for this, it is an interesting deck.

[rose]

fascinating, b/c that is quite similar to what the cards I threw say, to my mind. However, I'd love for someone to interpret the cards, if anyone is up for that, or has a different perspective. Thanks for using Lenormand for this, it is an interesting deck.

I would really appreciate it if someone else could take a look at the cards I got here, just to get a perspective from the tarot as well.
tia

[Marilyn (ABSENTMINDED)]

I would really appreciate it if someone else could take a look at the cards I got here, just to get a perspective from the tarot as well.
tia

I'll take a shot at it Rose.  Just remember that I'm not familiar with that deck, so my interpretations could be way off from what is normal for it, and most likely weighted to the equivalent cards in my own decks.

I'm going to check some deck sites first so I can hopefully get a proper visual of your cards - it might help me not go too far off the track.

Absent

[Marilyn (ABSENTMINDED)]

This is a Celtic Cross spread I did a few weeks ago, using the Sacred Circle tarot, a celtic trads deck. The question was whether there was hope for a relationship to be reconciled and reunited in the future.

I found a deck on Aeclectic that sounds like the one you are talking about and used Amazon's peeking function to get a look at the cards and some of the write-up.  I'm still having to go mostly off my regular associations, though, just so you know.


1 Significator= Shaman (hermit) rev.

I don't use significators, but I used to.  This seems to say that you have progressed in a significant way since the end/interruption of the friendship, but that your progress is stalled in the specific area that this friendship used to fill or affect.  Like everything else has moved on and grown but the sense of loss involved here is holding you back.

2 Cross= Chariot

There seems to be a lot of self-control involved - is this a friendship you cut off yourself, and have had to use a lot of inner resources not to fall back into?  Is there some sort of danger to other parts of your life or development involved, or a self-doubt about what this friendship could lead you into, if you relaxed your control?

3 Foundation=King Pentacles rev.

If this King refers to your friend, was there some kind of price, energetic most likely, to maintaining his friendship?  Did the giving or withholding of energy from this friend seem to come from a controlling or jealous nature?  Did he want more than friendship?

4 Passing Influences 4 Cups rev.

With my own deck, I would read this as meaning that you feel that some of the reasons for leaving this friendship no longer apply.  The need to distance yourself is no longer a 'now-time' thing, and you are starting to pick apart your former reasoning.  Some of it may be starting to seem like an over-reaction, and you may be reconsidering your original instincts.

5 Higher Power= High Priestess

You have more self-knowledge and understanding than you used to.  You can probably control the path of the relationship with more confidence and less danger to yourself than you once could.

6 Near Future Influences= 7 pentacles rev.

If this card were upright, I would read it as a proper harvest, the work you have put in has been successful and you are ready for the step you want to take.  Reversed, however, I think you may be getting ahead of yourself.  Physically, you may be in for a chance or arranged meeting that will give you pause.  You will see or notice something that may make you reconsider the idea of resurrecting this friendship just yet, even though you are going in the proper direction for its eventual renewal.  - near future may be a bit too early.

7 How I see myself= King Swords

You feel confident and in control, intellectually.  You have learned, and internalized your learning to the point that it really is part of you.  You are much stronger than you used to be.  Don't doubt this feeling, but remember that you are only half of the equation.  What changes/progress has your friend made that match yours, or at least won't undermine you?

8 Environmental influences= Page Cups

It seems that a lot of your growth has been done 'off by yourself'.  It took a certain amount of withdrawal and isolation to get to where you are now, and has not been tested in communion with others who may not recognize or support the direction of your growth.  Again, resurrecting a friendship that you may have had good reason to drop will be a test.  Your own growth compared to the growth or lack thereof of your friend.  How influential was he?  If he wants to go back to old patterns, how firm are yournew ones?

9 Hopes and Fears= 9 Pentacles

You want to be independent and self-sufficient, but you want to share your space as well.  As a hope this would represent your strength, but as a fear there is loneliness and lack of friends, or of this friend in particular.  You miss him, but don't want that to be your only decider.

10 Outcome=Lovers

This card, in my deck, is a sign of a decision that needs to be made.  Upright, the decision does not have to be final - it can be a 'for now, things will be this way'  The decision can be re-made as circumstances change.  The other meanings, adult love, commitment, equality, may come into play as well - I don't know what kind of friendship you are talking about, although the other cards do seem to indicate that there is a power dynamic involved, and an influence that may be detrimental to you.

I would answer your questions as Yes, there is hope, but you have to be sure of the ground rules or the same thing that lost the friendship before could happen again, and possibly in a more damaging manner.  Is there some way you can associate with your former friend enough to evaluate whether the friendship is worth work it will take, without plunging immediately into it?  If the friendship is worth it on both sides you may be able to work it out, but you need more information.

Gibberish warning applies.

Absent

[rose]

I'll take a shot at it Rose.  Just remember that I'm not familiar with that deck, so my interpretations could be way off from what is normal for it, and most likely weighted to the equivalent cards in my own decks.

I'm going to check some deck sites first so I can hopefully get a proper visual of your cards - it might help me not go too far off the track.

Absent

thanks Marilyn! One of the reasons I was hoping for another perspective is b/c I am still learning it. It's similar to RW but really very different.

[rose]

I found a deck on Aeclectic that sounds like the one you are talking about and used Amazon's peeking function to get a look at the cards and some of the write-up.  I'm still having to go mostly off my regular associations, though, just so you know.



Absent

Damn, Marilyn you are so awesome. Thanks so much!

Yes, this pretty much hits it on the head. He was my lover, actually, but there is no way to maintain that relationship under our current individual situations without major compromise to my personal integrity (and I think his too, from what he has said). We have not exactly ended it so much as stopped communicating, in any way. I don't know if we can be friends or not, or if in the future we can be together in some other way, but right now neither option is possible, for lots of reasons. I have had other indications that he is doing magic to bring me back, but thus far I have not had any difficulty deflecting that-I have stopped communicating with him energetically, and set  wards to keep him out. I know it's very upsetting to him, and he misses me, but I won't compromise my personal integrity for anyone for any reason. Yes, I miss him a lot. He is my best magical friend, and the only magical love relationship I've ever had. My sense of it is that we have to figger out how to be friends and get the work done we need to do together, but I just don't know if it's possible b/c of the attraction, and your interpretation does support that.

[Marilyn (ABSENTMINDED)]

My sense of it is that we have to figger out how to be friends and get the work done we need to do together, but I just don't know if it's possible b/c of the attraction, and your interpretation does support that.

It does seem to be saying that there are still problems to be sorted out.  I hope it helps clarify things for you.

Absent

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