Guardian Spirits

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[deFafnyr]

I'm not sure if I am posting this in the correct section, so please move this if I err... 

I have a non-humanoid animal like totem.  That totem aside, I have a more humanoid spirit that has been with me my entire lifetime.  My question I'm bringing forth here is regarding guardian spirits that are not animal like totems but more humanoid in spirit. 

This is what happened in a nutshell...when I was a child, I had a spiritual experience before I knew anything about spirits or religions.  It came to me, it talked to me.  It made me a promise, one that would take most of my lifetime to complete. Later when I came to know what religions were, I understood it to be a guardian spirit.  That promise has sustained me through a great many horrible events through my life from being a child-molestation victim over the course of four years to far too many deaths of friends, through being betrayed, nearly broken several times.  That being broken part is pretty serious, considering how hard you have to push someone that can quite frankly be an utter bitch with the full willpower and stubborness that my Capricorn gives me. I am by no means a weak woman.  That promise was like a buoy that gave me hope.

I have come to the conclusion that the promise was either a lie, or this spirit failed me horribly.  It has caused me a great deal of pain, mourning type of pain.

My question, has anyone else had this kind of experience?  Has anyone else lost complete faith in their spirit guardian/guardian angel or whatever one would personally name this kind of spirit?  I'm quite angry with this spirit that has hovered near me all of my life.  I've even given it a derogatory nickname.  I'm not taking this lightly.  I really don't know if this spirit is a guardian spirit (though I call it a guardian demon now for failing me/lieing to me).  Can one "break-up" with such a spirit? 

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I have come to the conclusion that the promise was either a lie, or this spirit failed me horribly.  It has caused me a great deal of pain, mourning type of pain.

My question, has anyone else had this kind of experience?  Has anyone else lost complete faith in their spirit guardian/guardian angel or whatever one would personally name this kind of spirit?  I'm quite angry with this spirit that has hovered near me all of my life.  I've even given it a derogatory nickname.  I'm not taking this lightly.  I really don't know if this spirit is a guardian spirit (though I call it a guardian demon now for failing me/lieing to me).  Can one "break-up" with such a spirit? 

Of course you can break up with it. Any relationship can be ended or changed, corporeal or non. Have you tried? If it's too hard to do on your own (and if it's been with you a long time, that might be the case) you could ask for help from someone who does that kind of thing. There are lots of methods for this. I've done karmic contract updates of various kinds, de-cording by myself and with help, and other things for this purpose. In the past, I was very gullible when it came to spirit guidance, and ended up in some pretty serious trouble b/c of it. Many spirits, and other entities are helpful, and usually they mean well, but sometimes they have their own agendas, which may or may not be helpful to you.

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I have come to the conclusion that the promise was either a lie, or this spirit failed me horribly.  It has caused me a great deal of pain, mourning type of pain.

I am curious.  Can you relate what the promise was? 

If not, I understand.

One thing that is true, is that sometimes what you recieve from a spirit guide is not necessarily what you had in mind when you asked for it.  That is not to say that what the spirit was trying to do was wrong, or maligiant.  It may have been that the spirit sees things in such a way that you don't and gave you what you needed, vs. what you asked for.

As I am not in a position to know what the situation is, I cannot say.  But, before you throw the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak, ask yourself if many months from now, or even far flung into the future, will you be better off for what did not occur, or not?  Did these forces that you speak of give you what you wanted or did they give you what you needed?  And is what you wanted, possibly detrimental to you?

Now as pertains to the seperation between you and this spirit, there are many methods to get that done.  Unless this force is activelly attacking you, I suggest that you act without malice or contempt to it. 

You can create a simple ritual around an object that you designate to represent your relationship between you and this Guide.  This could be anything, like a glass container, or a clay jar, etc.  Fill it with memories that you have with the Guide, physical representations of the bad times it carried you through, and how it has helped you over the years, anything positive and well feeling, and encourage the Guide to do the same with its energy.  Make the Guide understand that this item, when done, will eventually represent a parting of the two of you and that you will leave as friends.  Once finished, seal it, and sink it in moving water, at a stream or river.  Say your goodby's and your thanks and then leave.  The Guide should be unable to reach you again and will have to accept the parting. 

I would also get other opinions on this subject, and try whatever method seems best for you.  In any case try a method that puts the two of you in good standing with each other as you part ways.

I hope this helps

V

[deFafnyr]

I am curious.  Can you relate what the promise was?  

If not, I understand.

One thing that is true, is that sometimes what you recieve from a spirit guide is not necessarily what you had in mind when you asked for it.  That is not to say that what the spirit was trying to do was wrong, or maligiant.  It may have been that the spirit sees things in such a way that you don't and gave you what you needed, vs. what you asked for.

As I am not in a position to know what the situation is, I cannot say.  But, before you throw the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak, ask yourself if many months from now, or even far flung into the future, will you be better off for what did not occur, or not?  Did these forces that you speak of give you what you wanted or did they give you what you needed?  And is what you wanted, possibly detrimental to you?

Now as pertains to the seperation between you and this spirit, there are many methods to get that done.  Unless this force is activelly attacking you, I suggest that you act without malice or contempt to it.  

You can create a simple ritual around an object that you designate to represent your relationship between you and this Guide.  This could be anything, like a glass container, or a clay jar, etc.  Fill it with memories that you have with the Guide, physical representations of the bad times it carried you through, and how it has helped you over the years, anything positive and well feeling, and encourage the Guide to do the same with its energy.  Make the Guide understand that this item, when done, will eventually represent a parting of the two of you and that you will leave as friends.  Once finished, seal it, and sink it in moving water, at a stream or river.  Say your goodby's and your thanks and then leave.  The Guide should be unable to reach you again and will have to accept the parting.  

I would also get other opinions on this subject, and try whatever method seems best for you.  In any case try a method that puts the two of you in good standing with each other as you part ways.

I hope this helps

V

I can actually link to a blog of the chain of events, though those who do not know me might see it coming off as "emo" , but still it hasn't been emo for me, its' been quite frankly 43 years of events that have been very painful on this side of the screen....eh, I really don't know people here yet and you all don't know me so it's really too painful to share just yet.

[BGMarc]

Can one "break-up" with such a spirit? 

It really depends a lot on what belief system you are working within. For example, it is my understanding that the Genius (Roman term for tutelary/guiardian spirit) is with you for life.

[deFafnyr]

It really depends a lot on what belief system you are working within. For example, it is my understanding that the Genius (Roman term for tutelary/guiardian spirit) is with you for life.

Well if it turns out it's not one with really my best interests, I don't want it.  If there's a reason why it's failed me, then it better get it's ethereal ass in gear cuz I'm done being a doormat and trusting just because it's not corporeal. Being a spirit doesn't make it better than me anymore.  I've given and given and had nothing but blind trust and faith in this spirit that's been with me since I was 7 years old.  No more for this short little crone.

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Well if it turns out it's not one with really my best interests, I don't want it.  If there's a reason why it's failed me, then it better get it's ethereal ass in gear cuz I'm done being a doormat and trusting just because it's not corporeal. Being a spirit doesn't make it better than me anymore.  I've given and given and had nothing but blind trust and faith in this spirit that's been with me since I was 7 years old.  No more for this short little crone.

have you had any discussions with it? What is it's purpose in your life?

[deFafnyr]

have you had any discussions with it? What is it's purpose in your life?

This is another reason why I'm grownig learie of this spirit.  It only appears at its convenience.  It's a one way thing.  Trying to get it to show up for a conversation on my time, ya know it's a lot like trying to corner a guy you've been dating to say, "we need to talk" and then you get the feeling that he's doing everything he can to avoid that conversation.  It's been around a very, very long time and it got really easy to be comfortable with it always being there.

Anyway, gonna give it a few serious attempts to get it to communicate and give it it's chance to explain itself, and have that conversation letting it know it's only got this last chance to explain, and then I'm going for banishment and moving on.

[rose]

This is another reason why I'm grownig learie of this spirit.  It only appears at its convenience.  It's a one way thing.  Trying to get it to show up for a conversation on my time, ya know it's a lot like trying to corner a guy you've been dating to say, "we need to talk" and then you get the feeling that he's doing everything he can to avoid that conversation.  It's been around a very, very long time and it got really easy to be comfortable with it always being there.

Anyway, gonna give it a few serious attempts to get it to communicate and give it it's chance to explain itself, and have that conversation letting it know it's only got this last chance to explain, and then I'm going for banishment and moving on.

yeah....I've dated that guy
If you have other helper spirits or someone you can ask to be with you while you have the talk, it might be good, just for the extra support.

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