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« Topic Start: July 23, 2009, 09:44:18 am »

 Library fight riles up city, leads to book-burning demand

(CNN) -- A fight over books depicting sex and homosexuality has riled up a small Wisconsin city, cost some library board members their positions and prompted a call for a public book burning.

The battle has stirred much of West Bend, a city of roughly 30,000 people about 35 miles north of Milwaukee. Residents have sparred for months on blogs, airwaves and at meetings, including one where a man told the city's library director he should be tarred and feathered.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/07/22/wisconsin.book.row/
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« Reply #1: July 23, 2009, 11:17:51 am »

Library fight riles up city, leads to book-burning demand

(CNN) -- A fight over books depicting sex and homosexuality has riled up a small Wisconsin city, cost some library board members their positions and prompted a call for a public book burning.

The battle has stirred much of West Bend, a city of roughly 30,000 people about 35 miles north of Milwaukee. Residents have sparred for months on blogs, airwaves and at meetings, including one where a man told the city's library director he should be tarred and feathered.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/07/22/wisconsin.book.row/

Policing what others can read, and burning books - two of my least favorite things!
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« Reply #2: July 23, 2009, 12:28:47 pm »

Library fight riles up city, leads to book-burning demand

(CNN) -- A fight over books depicting sex and homosexuality has riled up a small Wisconsin city, cost some library board members their positions and prompted a call for a public book burning.

The battle has stirred much of West Bend, a city of roughly 30,000 people about 35 miles north of Milwaukee. Residents have sparred for months on blogs, airwaves and at meetings, including one where a man told the city's library director he should be tarred and feathered.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/07/22/wisconsin.book.row/

Oh, yes, let's move the books to the adult section.  Because NO teen EVER talks about sex unless they find it in a BOOK.  They certainly never HAVE sex.  So realistic portrayals of the consequences should be kept FAR away from them so they don't get any IDEAS!

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« Reply #3: July 23, 2009, 12:39:39 pm »

Oh, yes, let's move the books to the adult section.  Because NO teen EVER talks about sex unless they find it in a BOOK.  They certainly never HAVE sex.  So realistic portrayals of the consequences should be kept FAR away from them so they don't get any IDEAS!

Here's the other thing:  Obviously they're never going to find it if you move it to the adult section, right?  Personally, when I was "young-adult book" aged, I was reading in the adult SF/F section.  I've read more YA fiction as a full-on adult than I ever did in my teen years.  Also, I guarantee you my mother had more "objectionable content" in her Harlequin collection in our very own basement than the YA section could possibly contain.

Without knowing any more than that story says, this strikes me as another case of "parent your own damned children".  The solution seems to me--as with TV, movies, video games, etc.--to know what your child is reading and exercise your parental authority if you don't think it's appropriate.  It's not everyone else's job to filter the things your kids read/play/watch.

("Your" in the generic sense, obviously, not you personally.)
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« Reply #4: July 23, 2009, 12:57:34 pm »

Here's the other thing:  Obviously they're never going to find it if you move it to the adult section, right?  Personally, when I was "young-adult book" aged, I was reading in the adult SF/F section.  I've read more YA fiction as a full-on adult than I ever did in my teen years.  Also, I guarantee you my mother had more "objectionable content" in her Harlequin collection in our very own basement than the YA section could possibly contain.

Without knowing any more than that story says, this strikes me as another case of "parent your own damned children".  The solution seems to me--as with TV, movies, video games, etc.--to know what your child is reading and exercise your parental authority if you don't think it's appropriate.  It's not everyone else's job to filter the things your kids read/play/watch.

("Your" in the generic sense, obviously, not you personally.)

And kids would NEVER EVER pick up something labeled "sexually explicit" simply because of the sticker.  Oh no.  Not teenagers.  NEVER.

This isn't making them all run out and read the books because they're wondering what the hell the problem is.  and likely as not being disappointed it's not more explicit and extreme.

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« Reply #5: July 23, 2009, 02:15:18 pm »

Library fight riles up city, leads to book-burning demand

(CNN) -- A fight over books depicting sex and homosexuality has riled up a small Wisconsin city, cost some library board members their positions and prompted a call for a public book burning.

The battle has stirred much of West Bend, a city of roughly 30,000 people about 35 miles north of Milwaukee. Residents have sparred for months on blogs, airwaves and at meetings, including one where a man told the city's library director he should be tarred and feathered.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/07/22/wisconsin.book.row/

The most ridiculous part of this story:

+++The four plaintiffs -- who describe themselves as "elderly" in their complaint --- claim their "mental and emotional well-being was damaged by [the] book at the library."+++

Their mental and emotional well-being is damaged because they knew there was a book at the library!  I wonder what they would do if someone opened an adult toy store in their town?

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« Reply #6: July 23, 2009, 02:41:54 pm »



Their mental and emotional well-being is damaged because they knew there was a book at the library!  I wonder what they would do if someone opened an adult toy store in their town?

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« Reply #7: July 23, 2009, 03:42:13 pm »

The most ridiculous part of this story:

+++The four plaintiffs -- who describe themselves as "elderly" in their complaint --- claim their "mental and emotional well-being was damaged by [the] book at the library."+++

Their mental and emotional well-being is damaged because they knew there was a book at the library!  I wonder what they would do if someone opened an adult toy store in their town?

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They said it the book was "anti-christian" Separation of church and state anyone? I guess our Constitution doesn't mean anything anymore.
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« Reply #8: July 23, 2009, 03:50:04 pm »

The most ridiculous part of this story:

+++The four plaintiffs -- who describe themselves as "elderly" in their complaint --- claim their "mental and emotional well-being was damaged by [the] book at the library."+++

Their mental and emotional well-being is damaged because they knew there was a book at the library!  I wonder what they would do if someone opened an adult toy store in their town?

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20 bucks says they didnt read it.
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« Reply #9: July 23, 2009, 03:53:28 pm »

20 bucks says they didnt read it.

dude, you don't need to READ books to be damaged by them!

They emit damage-rays!

I'll put 20 bucks that at least one of them reads harlequins and doesn't see how they're basically porn.
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« Reply #10: July 23, 2009, 04:07:28 pm »

dude, you don't need to READ books to be damaged by them!

They emit damage-rays!

I'll put 20 bucks that at least one of them reads harlequins and doesn't see how they're basically porn.

It sounded like they read the book but they need to grow the hell up. who cares dont read it and dont let your kids read it. The dirty mags and videos they are looking at at their friends house is probably way worse then the book. They just wanted to try to support the other issue with the town so they made a big deal about it. Isn't there enough censorship already. IMO nothing should be censored and people should manage their kids accordingly. Plus most kids have the internet so im assuming they look at dirty stuff online. Theres really no way around it. again thats just IMO.
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« Reply #11: July 23, 2009, 04:19:46 pm »

Library fight riles up city, leads to book-burning demand

I saw this the other day. What's really appalling to me (let alone censorship) is the very idea that a book-burning is the right action to take.

What doesn't fit into our modified world view should be rounded up and exterminated. Huh. Doesn't that sound familiar.


Who said, "when people start burning books, they're on their way to burning people?"
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« Reply #12: July 23, 2009, 04:22:36 pm »

20 bucks says they didnt read it.

There's a reason that most library challenge forms have spaces for specific page numbers and such, and point out that challenges need to make sense in context (for example, a book discussing rape from the victim's POV (say, Laurie Halse Andersen's _Speak_, might be challenged because it mentions rape - but the book's context makes it clear that rape is a horrible thing, and that recovery from it takes help and support.)

For people who want more background on censorship, every September I make at least a couple of posts during Banned Books Week about censorship and related issues. (My highlight this year was Chris Crutcher, a YA author whose books are among the most frequently challenged, linking to my site. Eee!) They're on my Pagan blog, so there's an emphasis on religious related issues.

The index to most of the previous posts is here: http://gleewood.org/threshold/2008/09/29/banned-books-week-an-overview/
And the other post from this year is here: http://gleewood.org/threshold/2008/09/30/banned-books-politics/ (mostly about the Palin rumors of censorship that were current at the time.)  
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« Reply #13: November 12, 2009, 09:07:40 am »

I spent part of my life in this town and believe me when I say it is no surprise.  I hadn't even heard of this and I still have family there so apparently not everyone was up in arms. 

I moved away 13 years ago to get away from the oppression there.  Where we are now is not much better except that there is a lot more space between us all.  I originally thought this thread was about the uproar over the book "Rainbow Boys" in another  library here for which my then friend was one of the persecutors against the book.  She tried to convince me they were right and I asked if she or anyone in her church actually read the book.  No, the preacher just quoted to them the "bad" parts.  She is afraid her sons will get hold of the book and turn gay.  On a side note, they homeschool which is quite common here too and this book was in the public school library.

I told her I would not make judgment on the book until I read it and of course I have no intentions on reading it because if it helps one young man from committing suicide (which is the purpose of the book) because he is gay then it is worth it. 
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« Reply #14: November 12, 2009, 08:40:05 pm »



Who said, "when people start burning books, they're on their way to burning people?"

They have already burned people because of their books.  For one Michael Servetus  on October 27 1553 burned at the stake with his books by John Cavin.
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