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« Reply #15: August 22, 2009, 08:06:43 am »

So, wait. All schools? Or all highschools?
I heard anything about this before now, and I don't see how it can be enforced if every one has already chosen their courses, at least at my school. I just checked on its website, and that course is definitely not offered.

I don't think it has to be a separate course. I think it can be worked intio other courses.
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« Reply #16: August 22, 2009, 01:05:54 pm »

Then there's this little gem.

History's first draft: Newt Gingrich but no liberals
Textbooks being written for Texas students appear to lean to the right

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6581189.html
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« Reply #17: August 22, 2009, 01:57:33 pm »


From the article: ""The purpose of a course like this isn't even really to get kids to believe it" (Italics added by me) Ok, that sounds very comforting...
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« Reply #18: August 22, 2009, 04:28:47 pm »

Then there's this little gem.

History's first draft: Newt Gingrich but no liberals
Textbooks being written for Texas students appear to lean to the right

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6581189.html

They WANT me to home school, now don't they.

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That's right.

THey do.

Of course they probably wouldn't approve of what I teach my children.
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« Reply #19: August 22, 2009, 04:34:39 pm »

I don't think it has to be a separate course. I think it can be worked intio other courses.

That just sounds scarier. I plan on taking Bible as Lit as an elective at my highschool, and am just hoping the teacher intends to actually teach it as only literature. The idea of it being worked into other courses...I really wish more people would acknowledge the religious diversity we have in this country.
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« Reply #20: August 22, 2009, 04:47:11 pm »

From the article: ""The purpose of a course like this isn't even really to get kids to believe it" (Italics added by me) Ok, that sounds very comforting...

Considering you can't really understand American lit, especially American Lit from the south, without a firm grounding in Biblical references, belief isn't required.

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« Reply #21: August 22, 2009, 04:52:28 pm »

Considering you can't really understand American lit, especially American Lit from the south, without a firm grounding in Biblical references, belief isn't required.



That I will agree with.  If now they can only keep it out of hard science classes.
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« Reply #22: August 22, 2009, 05:09:36 pm »

That I will agree with.  If now they can only keep it out of hard science classes.

And of course, the question of the year, will it actually be done in a bible as lit or basis for lit way?
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« Reply #23: August 22, 2009, 05:12:28 pm »

And of course, the question of the year, will it actually be done in a bible as lit or basis for lit way?

ANd another question, assuming there was a middle eastern lit class, or Indian(subcontinent) lit class would the people pushing the bible classes allow a similar Koran as lit class, or a hindu holy writings as lit class and allow them to take belief pushing liberties that they will probably try to allow the bible as lit class to take.
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« Reply #24: August 22, 2009, 05:19:54 pm »


What Texas is allowed to ignore "separation of Church and State" that is... interesting.
And I agree with a previous poster, the only form of education where the bible is considered history (or even really literature without religious intentions) is biblical studies.

This actually blows my mind. Separation of Church and State exists for a reason. Not everyone attending Texas public schools is christian, especially in the larger cities, there are Muslims, Hindus, Pagans, Buddhists, etc etc. They say they are not even really trying to make the students believe, but I do think it is a hope for them. I just feel Texas is setting themselves up for disaster.

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« Reply #25: August 22, 2009, 05:23:38 pm »

Do not ever make the mistake of thinking that the Religious Right doesn't cherry pick their historical information. They do. Consistently and constantly.

And this is Texas we're talking about. The "Christian Nation" bit is written into the state's GOP platform.

Absolutely right, I remember reading in school all about how America was founded on Christianity and how the founding fathers we're all Christians.  They seem to have missed all the letters and statements Thomas Jefferson made in opposition to Christianity. John Adams was also vehemently opposed to Christianity in general and opposed to Christianity influencing the government.  
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« Reply #26: August 22, 2009, 05:23:51 pm »

ANd another question, assuming there was a middle eastern lit class, or Indian(subcontinent) lit class would the people pushing the bible classes allow a similar Koran as lit class, or a hindu holy writings as lit class and allow them to take belief pushing liberties that they will probably try to allow the bible as lit class to take.

I don't know enough about the liturature from those areas.  

Considering that a high school class in mideast lit would be a single class elective, the Koran as lit would be part of that course rather than a seperate class like Bible as lit. Same for Hindu lit.



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« Reply #27: August 22, 2009, 05:25:15 pm »

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« Reply #28: August 22, 2009, 05:28:51 pm »

What Texas is allowed to ignore "separation of Church and State" that is... interesting.
And I agree with a previous poster, the only form of education where the bible is considered history (or even really literature without religious intentions) is biblical studies.



You are over stating the limits of seperation of church and state.

I suspect you are also misunderstanding bible as lit courses.
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« Reply #29: August 22, 2009, 05:31:14 pm »

Absolutely right, I remember reading in school all about how America was founded on Christianity and how the founding fathers we're all Christians.  They seem to have missed all the letters and statements Thomas Jefferson made in opposition to Christianity. John Adams was also vehemently opposed to Christianity in general and opposed to Christianity influencing the government.  

Oh?  Can you provide some info on how John Adams was opposed to Christianity?
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